etwigs34

I have an interesting situation...hopefully someone can shed some light on.... I am a newbie in the whole MMA thing and begining to train...I bought some 4 oz Everlast MMA Grappling gloves and I was and L/XL but then I got some 7 oz Everlast MMA Grappling gloves but I was an S/M....It doesn't make sense to me....the both fit really well... the S/M are a little more snug but not by a large amount...
ANy Ideas....
Also need some good options for mouth guards...

The Phenom

uhh idk about that, maybe it's because of the extra padding? oh and for mouthguards, my walmart one does just fine. It's been through a year with no damage (besides me getting nervous and chewing on it)

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etwigs34

oh ok....ya i found the L/XL of the same brand.....i am trying them out today....as for the mouth guard i have a 1.00 wal-mart one but i figured when I'm sparring with someone I might want a better one...no?

NyPhenom718

A good non custom guard is the Shock Doctor Gel Nano/DNA. It's pretty inexpensive and fits great for a boil n bite. I will be switching to a custom sometime soon though.

smokelaw1

Shock doc is fine, and I used it for some time (about 2years.) Last december, I got a fightdentist custom guard, and holy crap...the difference is huge. Make sure you're OK with an upper-only guard, some guys really like the up and down protection.

NyPhenom718

The shock doc I have is upper only so I'm good with it, and yeah I heard customs are in a different league as far as comfort and protection. I find with double boil n bites I salivate more which is annoying.

BTW if you found my post helpful please rep, I got negged for no reason on my previous post in this thread and I'm in the red, I don't wanna appear untrustworthy as far as advice giving as I would still like to help people out .

The Crusher

I have noticed some inconsistancies in Everlast's sizes. In this industry you get what you pay for. I have Warrior fight gloves and they are great, not saying to go out and get those but higher quality warrants more consistancy. They should be a little loose on the hand to accomidate wrap or tape.

Have you been hit in the mouth wearing the Nano? I was looking at those just for the gym but have heard alot of people say "if you get hit in the mouth it will split your lip"

A single gel is good just for grappling but if you want to fight you're really going to want a double with the breathing slots in the front. I use a single gel Shock Doctor (stc I think something like that) in the gym and sometimes I almost spit it out because it doesn't have the air slots. And you have to open your mouth to breathe out of it, which makes you vulnerable to KO's.

NyPhenom718

Thats why you breathe through your nose . Most pro boxers and mma fighters all use singles. The Nano is fine for getting hit with, I got hit a good number of times my first time with it was fine and stayed in place, no split lips .

The Crusher

Agreed. Breathing through nose is the way to go until you get rocked in it. I should have specified when you breath out with your strikes to get that extra little umph. A lot of is preference i guess.

We actually do heavy bag training while breathing through coffee straws to simulate being able to strike when you have the wind knocked out of you.

Onganju

The problem with a lot of split lips is that their can be one of two things going on:

1) The boil and bite has a little "tag" left over from it's initial molding that truns into a hardened nub when you form it. That usually sits right in your gums in between your two front teeth. I had a simple boil-and-bit that did that, and without fail, one quick shot to the upper lip and I'd start bleeding from it puncturing the inside of my lip. Since it was a cheap mouth gaurd, I got rid of it.

2) With the Shock Docs they have a semi-rigid inner molding/fins that sits inside the gaurd itself. If you get them too soft before you bite and mold it, it can make the upper part of the gaurd pull back and expose a thin flat ridge that will make contact with the inside of your upper lip. It will also do the exact same thing as the little tab mentioned above.

The breathing thing is always a little more akward to get used to with a mouth piece. Part of the reason why custom mouth gaurds work so well is that even if you are breathing with your mouth open (not a good idea in a fight), the gaurd won't slip out and obstruct air flow.

BTW - There are many types of grappling gloves. Standard training/fight gloves will usually be 4 to 5 oz in size. There will be enough space to use a short handwrap under neath after you've broken them in (they'll look like this). The "Striking" or sparring style grappling gloves will usually be 6 to 7 oz in size, and will be more heavily padded in the front. Those will look like this. The second gives you more padding up front for when you incorporate striking during your training.

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