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Barnett 13 40.63%
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:33 PM   #81 (permalink)
 
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I think he just has that little brother mentality since he's the young one of the group. I too think he would beat Gilbert and probably finish him in a few rounds. I wouldn't go as far to say he's better than Nick and Jake since they're bigger than him unless you mean on a P4P basis. Even then, you have to put Nick ahead of Nate.
I think it may be a matter of Gil, Shields and Nick being better when Nate came to the gym and he may just be to used to losing in the gym that he never really turns it on, who knows.
As for Nate being a better fighter I mean just that (I can compare a LW and a HW as fighters without taking into account who would beat who.), if you want to say P4P that is fine, either way I think Nate is a better fighter than Nick is. Nick Diaz is one of if not the most overrated fighters in MMA.
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Old 05-19-2012, 11:35 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Barnett pulls rabbits out of hats, so this should be a great fight.

@Toxic, gotta disagree about Nick being overrated. Aside from being held down and out pointed when he was young, or have someone run around, he doesn't lose.
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I don't get why Nate always is polishing all the other Gracie fighters balls, honestly I think Nate is the best fighter in the Cesar Gracie gym. Better than Gil, better than Shields and better than Nick. Nick may have just as good of striking and a better BJJ game but Nate puts it all together much better IMO.
Lol Nate is the best fighter??? haha Man Toxic. You have been on quiet the roll of silly sht in recent times. The guy is good but he isnt anything great. Rory beat nate senseless and Strong compact wrestlers are his kryptonite. Obviously he can get the win most likely by a triangle or something but i wouldnt put money on it. Anyway thats my opinion so dont get buttsore please.



On Josh vs Gilbert??? I think they scored it wrong.

Josh won rounds 1,4,5 Gilbert won 2 and 3. I would have been okay with a Draw because Round 1 was close but to give Gilbert the win is wrong. But thats okay... Judges are incompetent and always have been so it doesnt bother me as much as it used to. You just CANNOT let it go to the judges. Especially if you have 5 rounds to make sure that doesnt happen.


Cormier vs Josh barnett is a GREAT FIGHT. I cant wait to see this go down. Im rooting for Cormier since i think he would be a great addition to the UFC HW roster while Barnett would pop positive sooner or later. But i like both guys so realistically id be more then happy with just a great fight.

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Old 05-19-2012, 11:40 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I hoping Cormier pulls this one out. He's a local boy who grew up about 30 minutes from my house.
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Cormier should be able to knock this frequent cheater the hell out. I sure hope he does. I don't see Barnett taking him down that's for sure.
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Lol Nate is the best fighter??? haha Man Toxic. You have been on quiet the roll of silly sht in recent times. The guy is good but he isnt anything great. Rory beat nate senseless and Strong compact wrestlers are his kryptonite. Obviously he can get the win most likely by a triangle or something but i wouldnt put money on it. Anyway thats my opinion so dont get buttsore please.

I feel pretty confident Rory could rag doll Nick the exact same way he did Nate. Really the only name on Nicks resume that impresses me is BJ Penn and I saw that fight and know that if BJ hadn't shown up and mailed it in but rather showed up ready to go more than 4 minutes he would have likely finished the fight inside 3 rounds.

I wonder who the UFC actually wants to win, if Cormier loses they could bring him into the UFC immediately but if Josh wins its harder to deny him as long as he wins the follow up fight in SF.
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I feel pretty confident Rory could rag doll Nick the exact same way he did Nate. Really the only name on Nicks resume that impresses me is BJ Penn and I saw that fight and know that if BJ hadn't shown up and mailed it in but rather showed up ready to go more than 4 minutes he would have likely finished the fight inside 3 rounds.

I wonder who the UFC actually wants to win, if Cormier loses they could bring him into the UFC immediately but if Josh wins its harder to deny him as long as he wins the follow up fight in SF.
Well, there's no more HW division in Strikeforce so Cormier should be in no matter what unless I'm forgettin something. Dana and company won't sign Barnett regardless of the outcome.
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Well, there's no more HW division in Strikeforce so Cormier should be in no matter what unless I'm forgettin something. Dana and company won't sign Barnett regardless of the outcome.
The showtime deal guaranttees showtime that the winner will fight one more time for SF. Don't bet on Barnett having no chance if he wins either since he is a Zuffa employee now and has seemingly from interviews with all parties squashed the beef with the UFC brass and is now on good terms.
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Nice cut on Barnett. That makes me happy
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Cormier hurt him bad with an elbow.
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