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Old 03-06-2012, 05:39 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Not sure what to think of this. On one hand everyone has a right to their opinion, even neo-nazis and other unpleasant people but on the other hand I really can't stand them. I'm usually very tolerant when it comes to stuff like this (e.g. people who wear Che Guevara shirts or red stars) but nazis really piss me off to no end. Don't know, might just be because I'm German and my Grandpa told me stories from back then.
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Old 03-06-2012, 06:13 PM   #52 (permalink)
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He won't get licensed again because he's a criminal and society relegates those people to 10/hr manual labor jobs.
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His license got revoked *shocked face*

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/6/...icense-revoked

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In a major update to a story we've been following since uncovering the information during the Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey event, Brandon Saling, a convicted sex offender with a tattoo featuring Neo-Nazi symbolism, has had his fighter license suspended. In our original coverage we touched on how Saling's "88" tattoo is symbolic for "Heil Hitler" (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet) and followed that up with information about Saling being convicted in the sexual assault of a girl under 13 and a domestic violence conviction some years later.

It appears that Saling failed to disclose those convictions when applying for his license and, thus, is in a good deal of trouble with the state and it is unlikely he ever fights again Luke Thomas broke the news over at MMA Fighting a short time ago:

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After causing a stir on Saturday at Strikeforce: Tate vs. Rousey, welterweight Brandon Saling's tenure in Strikeforce was short-lived. It turns out there may also not be much time left in his mixed martial arts career. According to commissioner Bernie Profato of the Ohio Athletic Commission (OAC), Saling's fighter license has been revoked.

Profato told MMA Fighting Saling falsified information on his application for a license by failing to disclose he had "ever been convicted of a crime other than a traffic offense". The ommission puts Saling in violation of Administrative Code 3773-1-09, clause F, of the bylaws governing MMA in Ohio, which states a fighter's license can be suspended or revoked if he or she "has violated any law with respect to any sports regulated by the commission or any rule or order of the commission or has been convicted of a felony."

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"Obviously this guy is never going to fight for us again," UFC President Dana White told MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani. "For this guy to ever get licensed again he'd have to go before a hearing for the athletic commissions and I find it hard to believe that this guy will ever be licensed again. He better go find another job."
This should put an end to any of the debate over the "he served his time, let him fight" vs. "convicted sex offenders with Nazi symbolism aren't good for promotions or TV" nonsense. Saling was clearly covering up his past in an attempt to build a fighting career and thus was putting promotions in jeopardy of significant damage to their reputation.

You don't just "forget" that you spent time in jail for **** and domestic violence.
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His license got revoked *shocked face*

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/3/6/...icense-revoked

awww so sad when that happens
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Having a Tattoo saying white pride - Should be OK, but it isn't. It is considered OK to have "brown pride" tattooed on you, and thus the same standard should apply. Unfortunatly, 99% of people who have a white pride tattoo have it for its racist implications. Hopefully in the future this will no longer be the case, but as it stands, white pride tattoos are a terrible idea.

Having tattoos with Nazi meanings - Having tattoos supporting the greatest war crime in history and the perpetrator of said crimes is just silly. Is he really in favor of the gassing of 6 million jews? I doubt it. It is just a stupid idea of an angry and confused young man. I think a lot of the people with Nazi related tattoos probably don't have that much of an idea of what the Nazi's actually stood for, and instead is just an expression of their hatred for other races. All that being said, Nazi related tattoos are completely unnacceptable and no pro sports league should permit an athlete with these tats.

Kidnapping and raping underage girls - Are you ******* kidding me? This guy shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere but Mcdonalds, whilst wearing a T-Shirt saying "Pedophile. Beware." Strikeforce seriosly ****ed up here. It doesn't matter how good a fighter this guy is, boot him out of the organisation quickly.
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He won't get licensed again because he's a criminal and society relegates those people to 10/hr manual labor jobs.
Are we to feel sorry for this guy? Or anybody else who refuses to live by the laws of society?

You do realize that he and his buddy, both 18 or older, kidnapped a 12 year old and a 13 year old girl and raped them. This will surely have lasting affects on those 2 girls that I can not, and would not want to, comprehend. Those 2 girls lives will NEVER be normal, and they may never be able to trust any men that may come into their lives.

So with that in mind, should we as a society just accept that he went to jail and afford him all the opportunities that everybody else in society are afforded? I vote NO!
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Having a Tattoo saying white pride - Should be OK, but it isn't. It is considered OK to have "brown pride" tattooed on you, and thus the same standard should apply. Unfortunatly, 99% of people who have a white pride tattoo have it for its racist implications. Hopefully in the future this will no longer be the case, but as it stands, white pride tattoos are a terrible idea.

Having tattoos with Nazi meanings - Having tattoos supporting the greatest war crime in history and the perpetrator of said crimes is just silly. Is he really in favor of the gassing of 6 million jews? I doubt it. It is just a stupid idea of an angry and confused young man. I think a lot of the people with Nazi related tattoos probably don't have that much of an idea of what the Nazi's actually stood for, and instead is just an expression of their hatred for other races. All that being said, Nazi related tattoos are completely unnacceptable and no pro sports league should permit an athlete with these tats.

Kidnapping and raping underage girls - Are you ******* kidding me? This guy shouldn't be allowed to work anywhere but Mcdonalds, whilst wearing a T-Shirt saying "Pedophile. Beware." Strikeforce seriosly ****ed up here. It doesn't matter how good a fighter this guy is, boot him out of the organisation quickly.
I'm still looking for proof behind this idiotic idea for an alleged double standard.


I'd imagine, like I said, if a white athlete, he'd incur just as much incessant bitching as Cain did for his Brown Pride tattoo....but it's a joke to even act like Cain's tattoo is normal. You don't see shit like that typically.


With the few white fighters that have something like that, it's usually the fact that they are admitted racists and accompany that with Nazi imagery that pisses people off.

But then again anyone too simple to understand the difference between a minority toting a phrase used during a time where historically, they were treated like second rate citizens, and emphasizes growth of the race being compared to a phrase that has been historically associated with these guys



should probably just smash their keyboards over their heads repeatedly and see if they somehow gain the ability to think.





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Are we to feel sorry for this guy? Or anybody else who refuses to live by the laws of society?

You do realize that he and his buddy, both 18 or older, kidnapped a 12 year old and a 13 year old girl and raped them. This will surely have lasting affects on those 2 girls that I can not, and would not want to, comprehend. Those 2 girls lives will NEVER be normal, and they may never be able to trust any men that may come into their lives.

So with that in mind, should we as a society just accept that he went to jail and afford him all the opportunities that everybody else in society are afforded? I vote NO!
I don't recall expressing any empathy for this man whatsoever...so...
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I'm still looking for proof behind this idiotic idea for an alleged double standard.



But then again anyone too simple to understand the difference between a minority toting a phrase used during a time where historically, they were treated like second rate citizens, and emphasizes growth of the race being compared to a phrase that has been historically associated with these guys





Are you ****** kidding me?



taken from the US census bureau.


Even though the nation is roughly 70% white, that doesnt account for the multiracial white americans, which would be around 3% of those.

The laws put in place to protect minorities from racism is racist ITSELF.

Explain why BET (Black Entertainment Tv) was allowed but when a company tried to make WET (White Entertainment Tv), they were not allowed to because it was "racist".

Explain why business' are required to hire a minority over a white person, to prove they are not racist, when it could simply come down to who is more qualified. When you go to a macdonalds and it is full of black people/mexicans working there, THAT IS WHY.

Why is it ok for black people to say "cracker", which originated from the word "crack" because of when white people "cracked the whip", but for a white man to say N*****, it is racist.




What i am trying to get across is there is so many laws in this country trying to prevent racism against minorities that it actually gives minorities more rights than the majority which is unconstitutional in itself.

The only way for racism to stop is for people to change WILLINGLY. It can not be forced, and the only laws that can be enforced are the laws that effect and pertain EVERYONE, not just the minorities or the majority. That is the only "constitutional" way to stop it.
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Ooooh! A big unnecessary graph of irrelevant information! You got me there!

Oh, and probably because BET was founded in 1980, which was like...maybe 10 years after blacks had gained civil rights, and they felt they needed a network that would prominently display them on television....seeing as, according to your fancy little graph there, they are a mere 15 percent of the population on average.

Also, I attempted to humor you despite your absolute complete lack of intellect and research this so called shut down of White Entertainment Television...guess, what...it's F***ING FICTIONAL. If you had any smidgen of intellectual ******* curiosity, you'd realize that when you read news on "The Spoof" it's probably not ******* real. No REAL company would make a White Entertainment Television....it's entirely redundant, would only appeal to overt racists, and the Country Music Channel already exists.

After that, I could explain why affirmative action exists, (the idea is very simple, actually, albeit controversial) but that would simply be a waste of time considering anyone with any desire not be an ignorant bumpkin can simply do the research himself. Which....albeit may be a little MORE difficult when you have a closed-mind as a result of living in such a historically WARM, OPEN MINDED, and PROGRESSIVE city such as Memphis, Tennessee....not sarcasm...obviously.

Again, more paranoid delusions. Please do me a favour and report to your boss that a black man called you cracker....if he says "It's okay Jim! That's not racist, it's okay!" I'll personally organize a "Free the white man" campaign across America for the injustices committed against them.

Here in civilization, that black man would be fired. Shocking!

Here in the real world, a professional black man hasn't called a white man cracker and escaped with his head in.....ever. But wait, a comedian said it! That must mean that it's universally okay for blacks to say cracker! A white comedian might say that n-word....but then some black people might be offended by it so he'll shy away. Why might he be offended by it?!!? You ask?!?! Maybe because when he was 7 years old he was marching down the streets with his family and white people were shouting at him while throwing rocks, bricks and spitting at him...then they got sprayed by fire hoses! Maybe it strikes a little more to home with him then a "slur" used against whites to indicate that their ancestors were dominant over them?
Nah! Seems far-fetched.

But wait! I do remember a white comedian using the word!

Oh wait! That's not a joke! That's a racial tirade and he even threw in a lynching reference to boot! Poor white man....no one understands his sense of humor.

And look at the racist black people getting away with calling him a cracker. They didn't even report that in the story! It's biased I tell you!

But um...nice irrelevant rant there. Now we can actually go back to the issue at hand instead of you closeted racists grasping at straws.
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