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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-03-2012, 07:51 PM
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Machida would have to be buried.
Actually I'd go with cremated, according to how Japanese do it, Machida may be Brazilian, but his heritage is Japanese (even his full first + last name are, only with a "typo" which was done for pronunciation as in "Lyoto" instead of "Ryoto")
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post #12 of 25 (permalink) Old 04-03-2012, 07:53 PM
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we are talking about the fighter holding the submission or the refs possibly being in the wrong.. on the flip side has anyone ever thought that maybe the fighter not tapping should be diciplined ?? not saying i agree with this but guys like Big Nog and Machida are really stupid when they refuse to tap due to pride
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Kill him how? Getting choked unconscious isn't as bad as it seems.
Maybe not by a pro but some 24 year old just died from his 14 yr old cousin putting him in a rear naked choke to long. It was pretty easy for him to stop breathing.

Edit: Let someone get a broke limb. Chokes are WAY different.
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It would take 3-4 minutes of cutting the blood off to the brain for it to kill somebody. Most people go unconscious mere seconds after a choke is tight.

As long as the HYPOTHETICAL death happened in the cage during the fight, and with no ill will from the opponent, there would be nothing to charge anybody with.

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Maybe not by a pro but some 24 year old just died from his 14 yr old cousin putting him in a rear naked choke to long. It was pretty easy for him to stop breathing.
This is a case of an idiotic teen making a tragic mistake while being hyped up after watching wrestlemainia.

Reading the police report, it does not sound like the used a rear naked choke, but a poorly preformed rear choke (fake wrestling move), he most likely crushed the victims wind pipe, not something a rear naked choke would do, as it is not a wind choke, its a blood choke.

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There's a lot of Sherdog-type 'What if...?' threads around here lately and they serve absolutely no purpose to the UFC section, take it to General Discussion or whatever.

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There's a lot of Sherdog-type 'What if...?' threads around here lately and they serve absolutely no purpose to the UFC section, take it to General Discussion or whatever.
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This is an unrealistic question tbh.
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The only possible way there could be any legal repercussion for a fighter would be if he held a choke too long, and on top of that you would have to prove he knowingly held it too long, ie, that Babalu Sobral fight that got him kicked out of the UFC.

If the opponent there had died, Sobral might have faced some kind of charge, but there is no way otherwise. Any sport involving violence of any kind, or even just a high level sport, assumes a specific kind of legal risk when you participate.
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There's a lot of Sherdog-type 'What if...?' threads around here lately and they serve absolutely no purpose to the UFC section, take it to General Discussion or whatever.
Yeah I agree in a sense. I think that this thread could of been titled more thoughtfully though. Maybe 'How would a death in the UFC affect the sport?' would be a more suitable title.

On the flip side, I wouldn't want this place to become a ghost town so I wouldn't want people to stop posting threads if they have an idea or thought that doesn't totally fit into someone elses ideal.




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I'm sure certain people would put the sport under question but really it wouldn't mean shit. People die in others sports like boxing, skiing, nascar etc. so theres no reason why if someone dies in MMA that it should be put under serious scrutiny.
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There's a lot of Sherdog-type 'What if...?' threads around here lately and they serve absolutely no purpose to the UFC section, take it to General Discussion or whatever.
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Yeah I agree in a sense. I think that this thread could of been titled more thoughtfully though. Maybe 'How would a death in the UFC affect the sport?' would be a more suitable title.
Definitely agree. I've moved these 'what if' threads to General MMA for now. I'm all for hypothetical debates but this and the 'What if Silva/Sonnen is a flash KO' thread are a bit...yeah.

A 'How would a death in the UFC affect the sport?' thread would/could be a great discussion actually.
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