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dsmjrv 04-03-2012 07:10 PM

What would have happened if JBJ killed Machida?
 
just curious... do they sign some sort of consent form for this? would the judge get in more trouble than the fighter? what kind of criminal charges would be filed?

MikeHawk 04-03-2012 07:11 PM

Kill him how? Getting choked unconscious isn't as bad as it seems.

LL 04-03-2012 07:13 PM

Jon Jones would probably be thrown in jail for manslaughter.
Machida would have to be buried.
I would probably cry and then off myself to join him.
The UFC would probably face some serious criticism.
FOX would probably drop it, it'd probably be banned in numerous states and it'd probably be in serious jeopardy of dying, it just depends on how well they could argue the fact Machida had the option to tap.

The fall out wouldn't be good though, that's the only thing for sure.

dsmjrv 04-03-2012 07:44 PM

i realize it wasn't even close, but assuming there were complications along with maybe the ref letting jones hold the choke a bit longer. if somehow they weren't able to revive or wake him up, i have a hard time believing jones would actually go to jail for this...

what happens when people die in boxing? i know it has happened before.

i feel like more blame would/should go to the refs and whoever appointed that ref rather than the UFC itself.. but i think if the athletic commission got sued it would be worse for the UFC than if the UFC got sued...

MikeHawk 04-03-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dsmjrv (Post 1567719)
i realize it wasn't even close, but assuming there were complications along with maybe the ref letting jones hold the choke a bit longer. if somehow they weren't able to revive or wake him up, i have a hard time believing jones would actually go to jail for this...

what happens when people die in boxing? i know it has happened before.

i feel like more blame would/should go to the refs and whoever appointed that ref rather than the UFC itself.. but i think if the athletic commission got sued it would be worse for the UFC than if the UFC got sued...

Nothing happens unless genuine neglect is determined. Like if the fighter were to intentionally throw blows to the spine, neck, and he actually killed the other guy. He would probably be charged with involuntary manslaughter and even then I'm sure he could get out of it.

People really only die when they have hematomas they don't know about and even then it's usually a couple days after the fight.

Soojooko 04-03-2012 07:54 PM

Be a Pall-Bearer... make some fans.

The Dark Knight 04-03-2012 08:08 PM

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make some fans.
:laugh:

Rusty 04-03-2012 08:42 PM

Some of you guys are out of your mind. They both signed up for an athletic competition and nothing short of a shank or attack after the bell influencing his death would be cause for arrest.

Why are so many people armed and ready to point the finger if something bad happens? Google boxing deaths if you are wanting someone in jail for manslaughter.

AlphaDawg 04-03-2012 08:45 PM

That choke wasn't held that long compared to other late stoppages. The worst that comes to mind is Davis vs Diaz. Lawlor vs Weidman was pretty bad too if I remember right.

LL 04-03-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaDawg (Post 1567743)
That choke wasn't held that long compared to other late stoppages. The worst that comes to mind is Davis vs Diaz. Lawlor vs Weidman was pretty bad too if I remember right.

Lawlor/Weidman was terrible, Weidman tried to tell the ref Lawlor was out and everything and Dana took that ref to task at the post fight press conference.

The thing that made Jones/Machida so bad was Machida literally face planted into the canvas while he was unconcious. As soon as Big John saw the arm go down he stopped it and Jones just let him drop.


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