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Old 06-05-2012, 12:16 AM   #31 (permalink)
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So I guess Randy Couture, Heath Herring, Frank MIr and Shane Carwin are all cans? They must be if you rate Lesnar so low. I suppose beating a 3 time world champ and a 2 time world champ these days is the equivalent of going for a run or maybe having a bowl of cereal?
Not cans but def not on the same level as the great one and the new breed fighters Cormier,Cain evolved wrestling and jds is a boxing beast. Lesnar is garbage and so is Sapp
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:56 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Not cans but def not on the same level as the great one and the new breed fighters Cormier,Cain evolved wrestling and jds is a boxing beast. Lesnar is garbage and so is Sapp
If those old school guys aren't cans then Lesnar isn't garbage. Somewhere below the elite you mentioned, but definitely not garbage. You can't have it both ways.
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Old 06-05-2012, 01:09 PM   #33 (permalink)
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If those old school guys aren't cans then Lesnar isn't garbage. Somewhere below the elite you mentioned, but definitely not garbage. You can't have it both ways.
What old school guys are you exactly talking about DonRifle mentioned Randy,Herring,MIr,Carwin out of that list Randy would be the only one who actually earned his stripes.

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Now I know you are really off. First of all there is a significant talent gap between Sapp and Lesnar.
Is there really? both Turtle up and tap like bitches.
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What old school guys are you exactly talking about DonRifle mentioned Randy,Herring,MIr,Carwin out of that list Randy would be the only one who actually earned his stripes.

Is there really? both Turtle up and tap like bitches.
Yeah ok former champ and contender in just his last fight Frank Mir with over 20 UFC fights didn't "earn his stripes" either. I see what kind of logic I'm arguing with nm.
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Old 06-05-2012, 02:33 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah ok former champ and contender in just his last fight Frank Mir with over 20 UFC fights didn't "earn his stripes" either. I see what kind of logic I'm arguing with nm.
lol what a joke post,the all mighty Mir winning his Belt from Sylvia and beating an out of prime Nog for an interim,i see what kind of logic i'm dealing with here you actually think the UFC div was good before Cain easily took the belt from an over hyped fighter.
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lol what a joke post,the all mighty Mir winning his Belt from Sylvia and beating an out of prime Nog for an interim,i see what kind of logic i'm dealing with here you actually think the UFC div was good before Cain easily took the belt from an over hyped fighter.
Bones easily took the belt over from an overhyped fighter too. So did JDS. So did Anderson. So the did GSP. Waitaminute. EVERY division has always sucked look how easily their champs go down. Brilliant.

Oh but THOSE guys sucked these new guys are awesome, until they get beat and we realise no it was these guys that sucked

Every UFC division since the fall of pride has had THE BEST FIGHTERS IN THAT CLASS IN THE WORLD. Period. Your relative statements about the depth of each division are meaningless, the fact is if they're the ufc champ they're the best in the world at the time.

It's not like heavyweights were sitting at home eating cheeseburgers for 20 years until Cain came around, they were evolving the same as the rest of mma.
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How easily their champions fell? Jones doesn't suck, neither does JDS, Anderson or GSP. I don't know who you're talking about.
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Old 06-05-2012, 03:04 PM   #38 (permalink)
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How easily their champions fell? Jones doesn't suck, neither does JDS, Anderson or GSP. I don't know who you're talking about.
It's called irony. I was just trying to prove how dumb it is to judge a div based on how easily the new champ takes his belt.

He said Cain took it easily from Brock, so Brock sucks. Well bones demolished shogun, GSP demolished Hughes and andy demolished franklin so I guess all of them sucked too.
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It's called irony. I was just trying to prove how dumb it is to judge a div based on how easily the new champ takes his belt.

He said Cain took it easily from Brock, so Brock sucks. Well bones demolished shogun, GSP demolished Hughes and andy demolished franklin so I guess all of them sucked too.
I guess so if you're comparing them to Brock somehow
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“I think it’s time to call it a day,” Fedor said when asked about his post-Pedro Rizzo plans. “This fight may be my last one. I have been learning from Pedro’s fights and have a lot of respect for him. He is a fighter of a great maturity, beating many of the strongest.”
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