How often would a sold take down fighter win against an unsold street fighter? - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-20-2012, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4
 
How often would a sold take down fighter win against an unsold street fighter?

If the solid takedown mma guy was very strong and around 220? How often would they be able to take down and at the very least restrain a non-trained street fighter?
hakmo2 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 02:08 AM
True Grappler
 
IronMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: New York City, New York
Posts: 6,222
                     
There are way too many factors here to make this something that can be considered easily. There's an enormous range in terms of "unsold" streefighters. Some can't even throw a significant punch, so the odds would be stacked much higher.

It also depends on the level of comfort in the ground game and the approach to the ground game. There are a lot of very good grapplers who have styles of grappling that don't translate well to a streetfight, and there are lots that do.

Generally, though, the odds are always going to be stacked in favor of the guy with the most training, and guys who can score takedowns are going to, generally, be capable of neutralizing an incompetent opponent on the street; this is an important lesson learned from the old Gracie videos. If you can't grapple, then you're in a lot of trouble once the fight hits the ground.



Sig by Toxic

Barnett - Toquinho -Werdum - "Nurmie"
Z. Gurgel - Morango - Rocha - Tiequan
IronMan is offline  
post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 02:23 AM
MMA Fanatic
 
Catterman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 44
                     
Let me guess, youre 220 and have a solid take down game, and some dude you know is talking shit and wants to fight you, and youre trying to figure out your odds of beating him??? Am i close??
Catterman is offline  
post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catterman View Post
Let me guess, youre 220 and have a solid take down game, and some dude you know is talking shit and wants to fight you, and youre trying to figure out your odds of beating him??? Am i close??
No, if that was the case I would call the police and report him. I am also a concealed handgun owner.

I was thinking back to the Royce Grace beginning UFC fights and I think if a bigger fighter around 220 had half of the skills of Royce Grace's and better take downs, that in a street fight against untrained fighters he would win almost every fight if not all. As long as he broke all the rules.

I'm sure a guy like Royce Grace in a real fight would, eye gouge, bite and anything else
hakmo2 is offline  
post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 06:43 PM
Sleepy
 
Hawndo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 2,153
                     
I don't think takedowns are ever a good idea in a street fight anyway.

I'm pretty sure avoiding the ground is like the top rule of street fighting.
Hawndo is offline  
post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old 04-21-2012, 09:21 PM Thread Starter
MMA Fanatic
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawndo View Post
I don't think takedowns are ever a good idea in a street fight anyway.

I'm pretty sure avoiding the ground is like the top rule of street fighting.
I've been in a few street fights and I always took the other guy down. I just hold them down until they quit.

I think going down on the ground in street fighting is bad if you are against multiple attackers or the person has a knife.

Police don't punch they take people down.
hakmo2 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome