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Old 09-03-2012, 08:00 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It wont happen because Cyborg is not even on the strikeforce roster anymore.

She tweeted she was going to ask to be released. Then she refused to drop down ten pounds and was cut.
Its obvious she wants no part of Ronda.
Logic = Not there.

Ronda beats Cyborg imo, but Ronda is the one standing in the way of the fight.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I honestly don't see what's to like about her personality and why she has such a huge fan base.

She talks and acts like a guy, mean mugs the camera (cringe), and her house is an absolute mess.

Skills wise, she's obviously good, but I think her 1st round sub wins says more about the terrible talent level of the womens division on the whole, rather than her being a really good fighter. The rest of the women just suck.
Are you threatened to become her flat mate or something like that¿ There are not many things about a fighter to come to my mind that I could care less than how tidy their home is...
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Ronda would smash Cyborg. Cyborg's been looking good smashing cans, but a girl with the level of grappling of Ronda would just maul her. If Gina Carano could mount Cyborg, then I have no doubts that Ronda could do much more than that. Cyborg's jiu jitsu is not even in the same universe as Ronda's. It'd be a first round submission for Ronda all day. The fight won't happen though, so it's not really worth discussing.
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I don't see how a woman who's 6-0 and only been inside the cage for 1,5 couldn't beat another female competitor.
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Logic = Not there.

Ronda beats Cyborg imo, but Ronda is the one standing in the way of the fight.
Whats not logical, my post or Cyborgs choices?

Ronda is standing in the spotlight not in the way, if the PED junky wants a crack at Ronda she needs to drop to the champions weight class period.

And so we are all on the same page, let's not delude ourselves into believing that cyborg can't drop 10 pounds. That opinion is total bull.

Outside of Bellator, Invicta and strikeforce, women's MMA is non existent.

Who the hell is she going to fight in the organization she signed with? I don't even recognize their brand.

Are they going to pay more than strikforce? No.

Is there some large stable of talent there at 145 No.

Why not just go where the talent is? Cris made herself irrelevant but that's right, its Ronda that's ducking lol.
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I could see her winning by takedown and armbar.

But I could also see cyborg winning via man strength.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:42 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Whats not logical, my post or Cyborgs choices?

Ronda is standing in the spotlight not in the way, if the PED junky wants a crack at Ronda she needs to drop to the champions weight class period.

And so we are all on the same page, let's not delude ourselves into believing that cyborg can't drop 10 pounds. That opinion is total bull.

Outside of Bellator, Invicta and strikeforce, women's MMA is non existent.

Who the hell is she going to fight in the organization she signed with? I don't even recognize their brand.

Are they going to pay more than strikforce? No.

Is there some large stable of talent there at 145 No.

Why not just go where the talent is? Cris made herself irrelevant but that's right, its Ronda that's ducking lol.
Ronda has faught at FW before, and Cyborg's doctor advised her not to drop down for health reasons. Rousey has smashed her way through Strikeforce's BW division. Everyones always calling for fighters to move up once they dominate a division, and then add the fact that the superfight is at FW aswell, it just makes sense. Does Rousey think anyone will continue watching another 10 first round submissions over nobody BWs?

Cyborg doesnt need to fight good fighters, because we watch her to see a wrecking machine. Roids or not, people watch her to see her knock bitches the fuk out, and even if the compitition is low, all she needs is for them to import some nobody can and she will smash them. People want to see someone knock every opponent out easily.

Rousey needs to fight good fighters because she's the 'greatest woman's fighter of all time'. Unlike Cyborg, she's the face of the sport. Everything is resting on her shoulders, and if she continues to beat nobodies who, like GrappleRetarded said, we generally think of to have more grappling weaknesses than Rousey has strengths.

People want to see knockouts more than armbars. It doesn't matter if you're a BJJ blackbelt, you like to see a good KO and you will watch if someone is taking out every opponent in seconds. Cyborg's whole character is just that, a Cyborg.

I believe Rousey is the better fighter, the more respectable woman and the GOAT of WMMA, but she needs this fight MUCH more than Cyborg does.
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Carano got Cyborg down several times..but then again,this is MMA and its envolving very fast!

If Cyborg can avoid getting taken down then Rousey is donne but if Rousey get Cyborg down..oh well,we have seen the end of that story several times

this is the MUST fight to happen and i would totaly love this fight to se who can take it to who`s world.

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Carano got Cyborg down several times..but then again,this is MMA and its envolving very fast!

If Cyborg can avoid getting taken down then Rousey is donne but if Rousey get Cyborg down..oh well,we have seen the end of that story several times

this is the MUST fight to happen and i would totaly love this fight to se who can take it to who`s world.

Wrecking machine on ground against the wrecking machine standing
One slight thing is that I've seen Cyborg get caught in armbars before and get out of it. I don't know if you want to take that she isn't good enough to defend the attempt, or she's good enough to get out of it, but it's a relevent point to take note of.
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One slight thing is that I've seen Cyborg get caught in armbars before and get out of it. I don't know if you want to take that she isn't good enough to defend the attempt, or she's good enough to get out of it, but it's a relevent point to take note of.
If Ronda can make Bravo tap I don't think Cris should try her luck.
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