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post #11 of 18 (permalink) Old 08-21-2012, 11:18 AM
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My favorite type of game planning is a fighter preparing to keep the fight where they're most comfortable. A perfect example I think is JDS. His TDD is amazing, so he's able to keep the fight right where he wants it. You see him exercise more caution in the striking when he's against someone with a dangerous ground game: Gonzaga, Cain.

I think it's these simple styles that are the most exciting.
Totally agree, this is why ive became a fan of JDS
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I'll tell you the worst game plan. It was Ken Shamrock vs Royce Gracie II where Ken decided to stay in Royce's guard for a full 30 minutes to end the fight in a draw.

Oh and James Toney wearing ankle warmers to enable Randy to get a better grip when he shot in for an ankle pick. Sadly I saw the odds was too good so I dropped a hundred on Toney; 5:1 OR 3:1. Friend and I split it. SOB!

Best game plan which I don't necessarily agree with was Condit vs Diaz. It sucked...but he won against a very tough opponent and got a title shot. Maybe that should be categorized as the "most effective" game plan rather than being the best or most exciting.

So the absolute best at the moment would have to be Ronda Rousey. Nine arm bars in a row. Same game, same submission, same attack. Hasn't been stopped yet.

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I don't think Condit's gameplan was good. Okay, he won, but surley a good gameplan means that you undisputedly won in clear fashion. The fight went 3-2 rounds and several people called it to Diaz. I felt Condit had won but there are thousands who think Diaz did enough. The judges might have agreed.

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Randy Couture vs Ortiz
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I don't think Condit's gameplan was good. Okay, he won, but surley a good gameplan means that you undisputedly won in clear fashion. The fight went 3-2 rounds and several people called it to Diaz. I felt Condit had won but there are thousands who think Diaz did enough. The judges might have agreed.
I agree it was garbage game plan, but in the context of things it was effective.

Lets say that Nate and Nick are one entity because they pretty much are identical. So Diaz is mopping out Miller, Marcus Davies, Cerrone, Paul Daley, Zaromskis, Shamrock, KJ Noons, Cyborg, and BJ PENN. That's a pretty impressive list. If you notice all of these are all top of the food chain strikers. Yet they got outstruck by Diaz and co. So GJ and Condit came up with a dastardly plan of backpedalling and "winning." Again it sucked I agree 100%, but they pulled it off and derailed the train for the time being.

As far as a beautifully executed game plan it pretty much goes to GSP cuz that's all he does. He doesn't finish and goes the distance.

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pretty much any GSP fight is a perfect example of how to gameplan. Pick what makes your opponent uncomfortable and then do it!

On the flip side my favourite gameplan ever is Belcher Vs Palhares... Go to your opponents strength... beat him at him then beat him up! Badass!
there was one in particular, I don't remember who the opponent was, but the gameplan was to fight the first 2 rounds in the clinch to influence the opponent's bloodflow so he couldn't perform as well anymore. that was sick
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there was one in particular, I don't remember who the opponent was, but the gameplan was to fight the first 2 rounds in the clinch to influence the opponent's bloodflow so he couldn't perform as well anymore. that was sick
The 2nd Penn fight perhaps? I remember that being gameplanned from round to round.

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I agree it was garbage game plan, but in the context of things it was effective.

Lets say that Nate and Nick are one entity because they pretty much are identical. So Diaz is mopping out Miller, Marcus Davies, Cerrone, Paul Daley, Zaromskis, Shamrock, KJ Noons, Cyborg, and BJ PENN. That's a pretty impressive list. If you notice all of these are all top of the food chain strikers. Yet they got outstruck by Diaz and co. So GJ and Condit came up with a dastardly plan of backpedalling and "winning." Again it sucked I agree 100%, but they pulled it off and derailed the train for the time being.

As far as a beautifully executed game plan it pretty much goes to GSP cuz that's all he does. He doesn't finish and goes the distance.
Yeah it's always hard to take as a Diaz fan, but to me, what was Condit supposed to do? Stand and trade off? KO. Take it down? Submitted. He won the fight and got himself a title shot. But at the same time, he JUST won so I wouldnt put it in the list of greats. If he created a way to beat Diaz easily it'd have been good.

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