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Old 08-21-2012, 03:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MMA Move Advice for A Dad To Teach His Kid.. Thanks!

Hello, I just joined the forum b/c my son is in MMA. He's young so they don't go full out yet. They start both students in the kneeling position and tell them to try to get each other in the guard or mount position.

Do you have any suggestions of moves I can teach my kid from that position?

Both are on basically standing on their knees and then Sensei says go...

I taught him to grab behind his arm with the left hand and hold on and then push the other kid from under his chin with the right hand and just twist and push him over. I think this will work for a younger kid, but maybe there's something better you can think of??

Any help would be awesome... Thanks!
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just show him this video imo.



But seriously, I'd leave it to the professionals.
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Should probably leave the teaching to the teachers. If you have no experience you could easily make things more confusing accidentally.

If you really want to get hands on with your child get yourself in class and learn the ropes, that's what I did and it helped me be confident that what I was teaching my girls was what they are working on at the dojo and correct.

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Old 08-22-2012, 01:12 AM   #4 (permalink)
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k, they didn't really teach a move from that position, so it was up to the kids w/ 0 experience to figure it out.. just figured I could give him some guidance.. also I know there's no way to know who I am, but I wrestled since I was 6 years old in D11 Pennsylvania.. went to the Olympic training camp in 96 where Kurt Angle, Kenny Monday, etc were practicing.. anyway, for me, when I was my kids age, I was using a basic bear hug to take everyone out, then double arm bars.. just looking for a simple move from that position.. I'm capable of teaching it to my kid and I'm sure what I already taught him will be very easy to excecute and very effective. The position is just so odd that I thought someone here could give me an idea other than what I've taught him..

Any ideas are welcome. Thanks.
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Pull guard, its what I do.

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Pull guard, its what I do.

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Thank you for the suggestion Life B..
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So you have him in judo? They are having them Rendori? I would still stick with my post b/c we have wrestlers come in and use dbls and singles and they get told to use the technique they were shown in class not that wrestling is bad just they want to expand their skill sets.

Make sure he uses his opponents gee to gain leverage. In jujitsu top/bottom position is less important I think but in judo they are looking to pin opponents.

I usually dive for the belly and step over to side control if they don't stop me or swim but there is no one move I can think of that gains an advantage from the start and that's prob why we start from there half the time.

Another thing that sometimes works is getting a high grip on each side of the neck and using body weight to help pull them onto all fours then go for the back. You should push them back first to make them resist and then pull down hard.





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So you have him in judo? They are having them Rendori? I would still stick with my post b/c we have wrestlers come in and use dbls and singles and they get told to use the technique they were shown in class not that wrestling is bad just they want to expand their skill sets.

Make sure he uses his opponents gee to gain leverage. In jujitsu top/bottom position is less important I think but in judo they are looking to pin opponents.

I usually dive for the belly and step over to side control if they don't stop me or swim but there is no one move I can think of that gains an advantage from the start and that's prob why we start from there half the time.

Another thing that sometimes works is getting a high grip on each side of the neck and using body weight to help pull them onto all fours then go for the back.





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sweet, yea that's awesome advice.. I would never think to grab the gee.. and I realize it's a different sport, this seemed like the most legit forum, that's why I posted here...

he wants to wrestle, I'll be g2g there.

he watches this all the time.. ha. this kid is sick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQnsQ...e_gdata_player

I'm just trying to guide him in the right direction here and although I don't know the advanced moves, with the right advice I believe I can teach him the basics..

and to answer your question, he's in MMA, but I believe the school started as karate then switched to MMA once it got popular..

also, if rendori is sparing on their feet, yes they are, but no throws etc, just strikes with pads on..

Anyway, thank you for you suggestions...
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Wait are we talking judo or bjj here? If its judo **** the guard, if its bjj and he is most likely going to wrestle when he gets older, he needs to be fighting from the bottom now. So many people are great on top but don't execute because they fear the bottom.

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Wait are we talking judo or bjj here? If its judo **** the guard, if its bjj and he is most likely going to wrestle when he gets older, he needs to be fighting from the bottom now. So many people are great on top but don't execute because they fear the bottom.

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I guess the issue is that the only label for the school is MMA.. To me, it's more of an introduction to martial arts and organized sports. If he were in the UFC he may be going to another school more geared towards competition (I think he's in the best school for our area right now though).. I just want to help him when we're at home because he goes twice a week and the other 5 days I could be working with him..

Anyway, I will definitely look in to working in guard.. he's like a spounge at this point so it's great to teach him things that are harder to learn for older students, etc..

Thanks again for your help..
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