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Toxic 10-17-2012 12:27 AM

2 on 2 MMA BOOKED For Oct 20th

Chance Farrar grew up with a bunch of brothers and thinks he's found a way to make MMA more exciting: add more bodies.

The WEC vet and promoter of Desert Rage Full Contact Fighting is holding an event that features two-on-two MMA fights.

"We started trying it in the gym, and it's been successful," he told ( "It's nothing short of controlled chaos, but exciting. You can't predict what's going to happen."

The event, "Desert Rage 11: Revenge at Paradise," takes place Oct. 20 at Paradise Casino in Yuma, Ariz.

Farrar, who is semiretired, said the fights will be contested under the Unified Rules of MMA with the exception of no elbows and knees allowed. Two referees will corral a foursome in a 30-foot cage.

Things get even more interesting when a combatant is stopped by strikes, submission, or referee stoppage. Farrar said a one-minute rest is called to give officials time to remove the eliminated fighter, and the round then resumes.

The fight ends, obviously, when one sides loses both fighters. If an eliminated fighter is unable to leave the cage within the one-minute period, the other side wins by forfeit. Rounds will be five minutes each with a one-minute rest period between each round, as with standard pro MMA bouts. But Farrar said there will be no limit to how many rounds a fight can go.

As far as weight classes, a team's collective bulk is added together to classify their division. The lightweight class is 350 pounds and under; middleweight is 425 pounds and under; and heavyweights tip the scales at 500 pounds and under.

Farrar said the individual weights of each team don't matter, so, in theory, a 300-pound fighter could be paired with a 125-pound fighter and qualify for middleweight.

During his first experiments with the multi-opponent format, Farrar said fighter teams initially found themselves cornered inside the cage. Later, they worked to create distance from each other, in effect creating two individual fights during the action. Nevertheless, the action was always decisive.

"This fight does not last," he said. "That's why I'm bringing it to Desert Rage. I think the fans want to see it."

Farrar created Desert Rage Full Contact Fighting in 2007. A former border patrol sniper and sometime pro fighter in San Diego, he moved back to Arizona and became the owner of the Arizona Athletic Club where UFC vets Edgar Garcia and Efrain Escudero trained.

In a 2011 lawsuit, Bellator Fighting Championships sued Farrar, a former consultant, for interfering with its business in promoting a Desert Rage Event close to a Bellator event, among other claims. Faraar called the lawsuit "frivolous" and said it was dismissed.

"That definitely put a dent in my drive, because that's not my day job," he said. "That's all in the past now. I'm just trying to have a good time with this, and I think this show is going to brand our name."

A fight card emailed to shows a two-on-two bout already booked for the event, which he expects to put on YouTube. He said four more teams have volunteered to compete at his next show.

Still, the 37-year-old Farrar said he encountered skepticism about the new format from the gaming commission that oversees the Paradise Casino, but sold them on the idea. He didn't approach the Arizona Boxing Commission, which oversees combat sports in the state but doesn't have sovereignty over the venue.

"People are trying to pawn it off as some kind of gang fight," he said. "That's not the case. The people fighting at this time are … the lower level guys that are crazy enough to attempt it.

"I'm a huge MMA fan and the last thing I want to do is bring anything less than pride to this sport. But I do believe that there's a lot of merit, and it's definitely not a tag-team. People want to paint it as a sideshow. That's definitely not the case. This is a serious fight, and there's a lot of team aspects that are added that are exciting."

Although he noted that he wasn't required to staff the event as would a commission-run show, Farrar said an ambulance and cageside doctor would be present at the show, and fighters would be tested for communicable diseases. He added the fights would be considered pro despite not reporting the outcome of team bouts to official record keepers.

"In our opinion, it's actually safer than a one-on-one fight," he said. "There's no elevated risk to the fighters. There's no blow that they could sustain in a two-on-two that they couldn't sustain in a one-on-one.

Wow WTF, I wonder how strategy works, since its combined weight it could be interesting, I mean combined 350 lets say, you could in theory have say using UFC fighters for example, Jake Ellenberger and Rich Franklin against Mighty Mouse and JDS. Who has the advantage I mean could MM keep away from guys like Ellenberger and Franklin long enough for JDS to lay the other guy out and give him a hand?

Surely KO power is a huge advantage as submissions could be broken up pro wrestling style but even that leaves the guy breaking it up open to either getting KO'd or giving up his back.

Its a freakshow but one I think I will be watching.

Life B Ez 10-17-2012 12:35 AM

Seriously and we are concerned that Sonnen vs jbj is what is stopping Mma from going mainstream and being taken serious. This is beyond stupid.

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Killz 10-17-2012 03:46 AM

It will turn nasty quick when someone gets knocked out and it is essentially a 2 on 1 beating.

El Bresko 10-17-2012 03:59 AM

Interesting.. he tries to paint it as something other than a sideshow act yet he understands it will probably never be accepted by a State Athletic Commission. It's strange and kinda stupid but I would definitely watch.

Maybe they should go to Brazil and do it? There's a lot of fighters there that are completely unknown that could make waves in the UFC.. just look at how guys like Falcao kept under the radar for so long.

Killz 10-17-2012 04:01 AM

I'd put this in the same level as entertainment as that awesome arm wrestling/MMA that somebody posted on here a few months ago.

I.E - It'll never get sanctioned, It is a complete freakshow, but I'll probably tune in.

K R Y 10-17-2012 04:11 AM

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This is pathetic. Basically some arsehole trying to make money by spitting on MMA.

...But I'll probably watch just to see wtf happens.

El Bresko 10-17-2012 04:12 AM


Originally Posted by Killz (Post 1638579)
I'd put this in the same level as entertainment as that awesome arm wrestling/MMA that somebody posted on here a few months ago.

I.E - It'll never get sanctioned, It is a complete freakshow, but I'll probably tune in.

hahaha X-Arm, thanks for reminding me.

Gary Goodridge should be the p4p king of X-Arm if he isn't already.

Hammerlock2.0 10-17-2012 05:20 AM

So this is going to be a four way cage match then?

Killz 10-17-2012 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Hammerlock2.0 (Post 1638610)
So this is going to be a four way cage match then?

more like tag team, but without the tagging. :thumb02:

kantowrestler 10-21-2012 04:17 PM

I don't think this will be catching on. This just makes it seem like a freak show. We don't want to turn this into something similar to prowrestling.

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