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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 10-23-2012, 11:47 PM Thread Starter
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Fedor to small for heavy weight? another question..

1. My friend said to me fedor is way to small for heavyweight and he needs to cut to middleweight, yet hes over 230 pounds and destroying guys twice his height/size. What do you think?

2. My second question is when was Fedors prime? What year was it, or how many years ago was it?

Thank you, bare with me i'm new to this, ive only seen a few fights on youtube so if it sounds like i know nothing about mma it's true.
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Fedor has retired after his most TKO win against Pedro Rizzo. His prime was likely somewhere around 2004-2006.

Fedor was very small for heavyweight. He's only about 6' and barely 230lbs with a good amount of fat on him - which he always claimed was an advantage in combat sports. He had the frame of a middleweight.



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Don't let his size fool you. Back in the day that man could take a shitload of punishment and return it tenfold onto his opponent. He may not have had size but he made up for it in skill. That's what made him so successful in the HW scene for so long.

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I think if was Bas Rutten who was like "I remember seeing this fat Russian guy who was fighting a guy from my gym. We thought he would get crushed, little did we know...".

Fedor wasn't THAT small. He wouldnt always have been one of the smaller HWs, but his style was exactly like an MMA Tyson. He could take your best shots, and hit much harder every time. His submission defence was almost unmatched (up until the Werdum fight) and he was so solid in every area possible.

What kills me about his losses were they made him look so weak, but they were so understandable. Stretched out, his "prime" wouldnt have been over so quick. Werdum just caught him. Fedor always seemed to slip out, but this one time he didnt, to one of the best BJJ guys around. Antonio was toe to toe with him, and Fedor was eating Silva's best and giving them right back. It was a good war, until he got taken down (which he didnt always resist amazingly, especially not against a huge guy like Antonio). We seen great grappling from Bigfoot, and Fedor struggle endlessly to get out, never quitting and taking insane punishment. The guys stopped it, but it didnt even really feel like Fedor did anything wrong. He got outgrappled slightly, but Bigfoot is a great BJJ guy and outclasses most on the top position. Lastly, the Hendo fight. He dropped Hendo, Dan slipped out, and finished it with GnP quickly. I personally think that had NOTHING to do with Fedor's prime, and could have happened to him at any stage of his career. Hendo literally just slipped out and landed hard enough shots in such quick succession that Fedor couldnt defend quick enough and the ref jumped in.

Harsh to say he dropped off so much but he's truley one of the greatest of all time, in not THE in a lot of people's opinions.

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Fedor too small for heavyweight? Someone should inform his record as it obviously has no idea.
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Multiple fail. Fedor is the best HW ever.

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I think if was Bas Rutten who was like "I remember seeing this fat Russian guy who was fighting a guy from my gym. We thought he would get crushed, little did we know...".

Fedor wasn't THAT small. He wouldnt always have been one of the smaller HWs, but his style was exactly like an MMA Tyson. He could take your best shots, and hit much harder every time. His submission defence was almost unmatched (up until the Werdum fight) and he was so solid in every area possible.

What kills me about his losses were they made him look so weak, but they were so understandable. Stretched out, his "prime" wouldnt have been over so quick. Werdum just caught him. Fedor always seemed to slip out, but this one time he didnt, to one of the best BJJ guys around. Antonio was toe to toe with him, and Fedor was eating Silva's best and giving them right back. It was a good war, until he got taken down (which he didnt always resist amazingly, especially not against a huge guy like Antonio). We seen great grappling from Bigfoot, and Fedor struggle endlessly to get out, never quitting and taking insane punishment. The guys stopped it, but it didnt even really feel like Fedor did anything wrong. He got outgrappled slightly, but Bigfoot is a great BJJ guy and outclasses most on the top position. Lastly, the Hendo fight. He dropped Hendo, Dan slipped out, and finished it with GnP quickly. I personally think that had NOTHING to do with Fedor's prime, and could have happened to him at any stage of his career. Hendo literally just slipped out and landed hard enough shots in such quick succession that Fedor couldnt defend quick enough and the ref jumped in.

Harsh to say he dropped off so much but he's truley one of the greatest of all time, in not THE in a lot of people's opinions.
Couldn't agree more!

Fedor is still my all time favourite fighter. He's passionate, humble, undersized and an absolute beast.

He's been in trouble with the likes of Randleman (the nastiest suplex ever), Fujita (best landed shot that wobbled Fedor), Comeman on the ground as well as Hunt, etc etc.

He always came through and showed his technical prowess and speed/power with his fearless striking.

I still remember his first title shot in PRIDE against Nog like it was yesterday. Got chills on his intro walk out. That was the beginning of a long, fruitful career as he literally dismantled the best HW on the planet at every faucet of the game.


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Couldn't agree more!

Fedor is still my all time favourite fighter. He's passionate, humble, undersized and an absolute beast.

He's been in trouble with the likes of Randleman (the nastiest suplex ever), Fujita (best landed shot that wobbled Fedor), Comeman on the ground as well as Hunt, etc etc.

He always came through and showed his technical prowess and speed/power with his fearless striking.

I still remember his first title shot in PRIDE against Nog like it was yesterday. Got chills on his intro walk out. That was the beginning of a long, fruitful career as he literally dismantled the best HW on the planet at every faucet of the game.

Yeah he wasn't untouchable. His style put him in trouble, and he always seemed to perform a mircale and win the fight (if it was needed). I think it was unlucky that 3 times where he didnt came in a row, but I think had he went straight to the UFC after them, he could well have faught JDS by now and I think he'd have won the HW belt.

Sucks I never got to really watch him live. I watched the Silva and Hendo fights but ehres a difference between watching Fedor walk out in SF and watching Fedor walk out in Pride. While I like to think "I'm watching the greatest of all time walk out right now" as Anderson heads to the ring, I'm not anticipating a complete war in the cage, and more so a master class. At all times your could fear a Fedor loss, which made his then GOAT title hang in the balance so much, making the antitpation of that walk out reach boiling point.

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Lol at people saying Fedor could make 185lbs, sorry guys but i just could never see that happening unless it was another James Irvin type situation.
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