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neki12 12-26-2012 05:26 PM

All-Time P4P Top 35 Ranking
 
My list of best All Time fighters in the history of MMA:

1. Anderson Silva (1142)
2. Georges St. Pierre (1118)
3. Fedor Emelianenko (1080)
4. Matt Hughes (988)
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (945)
6. Chuck Liddell (943)
7. Dan Henderson (920)
8. B.J. Penn (911)
9. Wanderlei Silva (905)
10. Bas Rutten (889)
11. Randy Couture (860)
12. Quinton Jackson (853)
13. Tito Ortiz (818)
14. Jose Aldo (801)
15. Mauricio Rua (795)
16. Jon Jones (790)
17. Takanori Gomi (786)
18. Lyoto Machida (774)
19. Frank Shamrock (763)
20. Mirko Filipovic (749)
21. Masakatsu Funaki (741)
22. Urijah Faber (738)
23. Dominick Cruz (733)
24. Frankie Edgar (728)
25. Rich Franklin (728)
26. Rashad Evans (724)
27. Yuki Kondo (723)
28. Junior dos Santos (706)
29. Josh Barnett (701)
30. Ricardo Arona (690)
31. Gilbert Melendez (685)
32. Nate Marquardt (683)
33. Ken Shamrock (682)
34. Cain Velasquez (679)
35. Benson Henderson (678)

This ranking is based on a score (in brackets) that represents overall career achievement.

What do you guys think?

BWoods 12-26-2012 05:42 PM

How did you determine these numerical values? Without a proper explanation we can only label these as arbitrary.

Aside from that I agree with the list for the most part. I don't really agree with Randy Couture or BJ Penn being on there since they are hugely overrated fighters who have been gifted many title fights. Same goes with Frank Mir (Who I'm somewhat surprised isn't on this list.)

The person that really shocks me is Yuki Kondo.

LL 12-26-2012 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by neki12 (Post 1661751)
22. Urijah Faber (738)
23. Dominick Cruz (733)

What the **** is this?!


neki12 12-26-2012 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWoods (Post 1661753)
How did you determine these numerical values? Without a proper explanation we can only label these as arbitrary.

Aside from that I agree with the list for the most part. I don't really agree with Randy Couture or BJ Penn being on there since they are hugely overrated fighters who have been gifted many title fights. Same goes with Frank Mir (Who I'm somewhat surprised isn't on this list.)

The person that really shocks me is Yuki Kondo.

This All-Time ranking is based on the score that we calculate (All Time Total).
There is formula and a detailed explanation on All Time Rankings formula.

You can also see a complete list (500+ fighters) on All Time Rankings List
There is much more there, but if you want I can copy some of that here.
It is just difficult to put a big table into a text like this (and you cannot sort).

Yuki Kondo was ranked #1 in LHW from 1997-1998.
From 1996 to 2001 he was always ranked top 10 LHW.
And that includes his time in UFC.

Crester 12-26-2012 08:09 PM

I don't disagree with your #1 pick and all of the fighters you picked are solid fighters.

I'm not sure if I agree with the order tho. It's hard to compare fighters from different generations... because the sport changes and athletesare continuously advancing.

Like Royce Gracie destroyed everybody regardless of size in his generation... but if you took Royce in his prime and made him fight today... he probably wouldn't have anywhere near as much success.

neki12 12-26-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLyotoLegion (Post 1661754)
What the **** is this?!


This is All-Time ranking, not Current Ranking.

Maybe this graph might help.



Uriah was dominant for longer period than Dominick.

We are adding additional points each quarter (every 3 months) to this score.
So, since Dominick is ranked higher than Faber, he will get more points next quarter and he will pass Faber on All-Time list.

LL 12-26-2012 09:23 PM

Very well then.

El Bresko 12-26-2012 09:36 PM

Cruz doesn't deserve any points until he fights again!

neki12 12-26-2012 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by El Bresko (Post 1661782)
Cruz doesn't deserve any points until he fights again!

This doesn't work like that.
Details are on the website, but I can put few explanations here.

Score that is used here is called AllTimeTotal (ATT) and represents overall career achievement.


Following formula is used:


AllTimeTotal = CareerScore_End + CareerScore_Max
+ Dominance + Quarterly_Historical_Ranking_Count
+ BestRankings + MaxScore + ChampPoints


How is how those different components change in time?

1. PointsBestRankings and MaxScore are the highest achievements, and once you reach them you donít lose them.

2. CareerScore_Max also stays the same after maximum is reached, but if you start losing fights, your CareerScore_End is slipping.

3. Every quarter end (3 month period) fighters that are among best fighters get additional Dominance and Quarterly_Historical_Ranking_Count points. If somebody retires at the top, he will keep receiving additional points for few more quarters.

El Bresko 12-26-2012 10:35 PM

you should put all the details here, MMAForum is not a shameless advertising tool :)


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