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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 03-25-2007, 04:10 AM Thread Starter
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Steroids in MMA

It's obviously an issue in sports and MMA is included.

I'd like opinions of this board on the following questions:

What are their thoughts on steroids, and suppliments in terms of fair use?

How many fighters(and even who, if so) are using these substances?

Do other fighters just not care, or are they keeping a code of silence? (I mean, I work out, I know what's natural and 'roided up. They all must know. )

What should be the penalties for use?

I'll lead with my thoughts...

I think they should be banned, but you should be able to get a doctors permission for use to heal injuries. I'd rather have someone fight healthy than with ten injuries and risk further damage to their health.
'roids to bulk up, no way.

I think there are MANY fighters using various forms of preformance inhancing drugs. Weather they are regular ol' roids or HGH, or something else, it's wide spread.

I'm suspicious of most guys "coming off injuries" or who don't look "human".

I think most fighters avoid the subject, because the results of the use is enhancing the fighting business.
Unless the commission nails someone, (like Bonnar), it's just who cares.

I think if you're using for non-legit reasons, you should face harsh penalties. None of this "3 month" or "10 months" than "behave, hooligan!" crap.

1st strike: Public announcment / banned from MMA (all orgs) for 1 year Pay back that purse you earned DOUBLE

2nd strike: 3 year ban/ public announcment pay back your purse for that fight TRIPLE

3rd strike: lifetime ban Pay back ALL of your earnings from THAT SPECIFIC contract

Oh, and test every fight once a month. It's not asking much if you're clean.
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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 03-25-2007, 02:33 PM
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I'm not sure, but don't they do blood tests during the pre-fight physicals?

I'm against steriods and I think it cheapens the sport (any sport in which the athletes use). I think that if fighters are caught with steroids in the U.S (where it is illegal without prescriptions for medical uses, which don't usually have long term refills so it wouldn't be for very long that they'd be on it) after the first time (or if there are tons of people doing it then on the first offense), the organization should turn the fighter over to the police, to make a statement. According to a bodybuilding magazine I bought once, the first time sentence of being caught with steroids is anywhere from 2 to 6 years in jail (if convicted). I think in general, the athletes in other sports are untouchable, which is why I think that the MMA orgs need to get tough on this now, before the fighters become "untouchable" with fame.

People don't realize how strong people can get without steroids. Sure it takes more work, but I think it would be more satisfying. Phil Pfister is a powerlifter and won the 2006 World's Strongest Man competition and he is drug free (also the first American to win in over 20 years). He went up against people who are known to take steroids (because most countries around the world don't have steroids as an illegal drug) and he still beat them all. If that is possible, then it is possible for a non-steroids user to beat a steroids user in MMA. But the thing is this, these fighters make their money off of winning fights. If they know people in their weight class are using steroids, they may feel pressure to use steroids just to stay competitive. Like I said earlier, steroids cheapens all sports.

As for supplements, I'm perfectly fine with them. Protein is essential, but if they want to use creatine then I'd be fine with that. Any other legal supplement is fine with me.
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You brought up a great point that I don't want to be lost in the mix here.

The sentence for POSSESSION of steroids. Hardly athlete gets caught with the drugs on their person or property.

Just with drugs, it's not illegal to DO, it's illegal to possess.

Same reason why it's called "public intox", not "drunk in public, stoned in public, iced out in public, etc"

The results show on tests, or... those hilarious lists of thousands of names from pharmacies.

In addition, anyone who knows working out and health knows that steroids are done in cycles. In other words, with proper usage, you can have them out of your system by the fight time.
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