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post #31 of 172 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 03:25 PM
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I think she'd probably always have a slight advantage over other women but if her passport and hormones say "female" I don't think anyone has the right to tell her she can't compete.
It is a different category anyway. This person was born a man. That is enough reason to prevent this person to fight against women, IMO. Maybe we could see fighters classified only by their strengh in the future, regardless their gender, but for now I can't aprove a TG to fight as a woman.


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Even iof they are in line with other womens, the fact that she used to be a man means she will have the frame and muscular DNA of a man. A 145lb man will 9 times out of 10 be stronger than a 145lb woman and no amount of hormonal therapy will stop that.
I'm with this.

The fact that she(he) was born a male and has the DNA and molecular make-up of a male is enough to deduce that she(he) should be fighting in Men's MMA and not other woman, being that the rest of the woman didn't come from those same circumstances. Regardless of what surgeries you may have went through, you simply can't change your cellular structure and how you were born.
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This is horrible. He shouldn't be allowed to compete with women in a professional sport were strength plays such a big role. What he needs to do is grow some balls and compete with men his own size.
Im pretty sure 'growing balls' is the exact opposite of what she wants to do.
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Muscle growth is influenced by testeron's levels but if her testoteron's levels are the same as other women I don't think there is any significant advantage . Just look at Overeem without juice ...
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This is a tricky one for sure. One could argue he has undergone all the surgery and hormonal treatments to be considered "female" but the guy did it in his 30's. If I recall correctly, that runner had done this at a much younger age, maybe even birth. I think she had been born a hermaphrodite so when it came time to test for chromosomes, she still had a y floating around(I may be way off on this though). This guy sounds like he was born all man and therefore it was a personal choice rather than a medical treatment for a birth defect. The real issue with this would be the theoretical flood gate that could be opened in any competitive sport that is segregated by gender. I'm not saying guys are going to be lopping junk off left and right to be the next Wmma star or Olympic hopeful but plenty of folks will do whatever it takes to gain an edge, especially in competitive sports...

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Clearly we need a male and female transgender UFC weightclass now. Why shouldn't transgenders be able to fight in the UFC if they want to? I'm all for shelling out 60 bucks for the next PPV headlined by Fallon. It would be a victory for all transgenderers everywhere.

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Clearly we need a male and female transgender UFC weightclass now. Why shouldn't transgenders be able to fight in the UFC if they want to? I'm all for shelling out 60 bucks for the next PPV headlined by Fallon. It would be a victory for all transgenderers everywhere.

Anybody who disagrees with me is either not a true MMA fan or just doesn't appreciate the transgender MMA scene or is biased against transgender folks.
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I'm not really sure what the big deal is. Even the IOC would let her compete as a woman. And the Olympics has a long history of being well behind the times when it comes to the sex of athletes.

She got her sexual reassignment surgery (SRS) about seven years ago. I think the IOC requires a two year period of hormone treatment after SRS. So, yeah... much ado about nothing.

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There is always gonna be that doubt floating over her head when it comes to Commissions licensing her for fights, even if it turns out she can continue fighting, whether licensing in the future is successful or not, all victories will be questioned and scrutinized.

Whether this blows over or not, she'll never have a legitimate career in the eyes of many.

This is a legal and moral grey area to say the least.
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