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Ferdelance 07-24-2006 04:11 AM

Favorite Knockout Technique ?
 
This is really like, a question with two parts:
a) What is your favorite knock-out technique? Have you yourself actually used it against an actual live opponent and can attest to its effectiveness?
b) I'd like some input on a technique advocated in an older edition(circa 1950) of the US Army Hand-to-hand combat manual.They say that the best way to knock somebody out is an edge of hand blow to the bridge of the nose. Do you agree or disagree? How effective do you rate that as a knock-out technique?
Kiai! Ferdelance

Kameleon 07-24-2006 04:42 AM

Grab a person's head with both hands and pull them down at the same time bring a knee to their face. You will break their nose and when I did it to a person he struggled to get away and turned his head and my second knee hit his temple and he went limb and was unconcious. I've never used the knife strike but I'm more of a grappler. I will use knees and kicks, however.

Tap-outNow 07-26-2006 02:42 PM

Kameleon is %100 accurate. I've knocked out people with my hands before but unless you connect cleanly most guys can shake off a shot to the head, but on the other hand, with a muy thai type clinch, the knee can just rain upward and there is not much an oppanent can do. Especially if your talking about a regulr bar brawl or your girlfriends husband is just trying to wail at you;)

jdun11 07-26-2006 02:47 PM

I Prefer I Right Cross Followed By A Left Hook, Than Followed Up By The Thai Clinch And Throwin Numerous Kness...if U Connect Wit Any Of The First Punches The Clinch Will Come Easy, And Once U Got That Sunk In Its Over

Ferdelance 07-27-2006 10:41 PM

Favorite Knock-out Technique?
 
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Originally Posted by Tap-outNow
Kameleon is %100 accurate. I've knocked out people with my hands before but unless you connect cleanly most guys can shake off a shot to the head, but on the other hand, with a muy thai type clinch, the knee can just rain upward and there is not much an oppanent can do. Especially if your talking about a regulr bar brawl or your girlfriends husband is just trying to wail at you;)

What is a muy thai clinch? I studied judo and Kyokushinkai(Mas Oyama) karate.I am unfamiliar with a muy thai clinch. How do you execute this technique? Is it similar to the clinch that you see in pro boxing bouts where somebody's just caught one and he's trying to tie his opponent up until his head clears?
Also, I think that my knee and elbow techniques are not as strong as they should be.How do I develop knock-out power in them?

Onganju 07-27-2006 10:54 PM

I Posted this in the Training Section Before
 
The Muay Thai clinch is when one fighter has control of the other fighter's head and neck (usually by drapping his arms/hands around the back of the neck) in order to effectively throw knees into their head and body. This is how to do the Muay Thai clinch (as posted before):

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Finer points to the MT Clinch (try this out IronMan, you'll probably like it):

When initiating the clinch, don't wrap your hands around the back of the opponents neck, but cup the backside/crown of their head. Your forearms should follow their jawline, across the clavicle, with your elbows somewhere around your opponents mid-chest area. If you wrap around their neck, you're going to have to exert more energy to bring their head down. Since the crown of their head is farther away from the fulcrum point that the head uses to move up and down (the neck itself), applied physics will work in your favor and make it so that your opponent has to exert much more energy to stay upright. Your goal will be their neck eventually (I'll ilustrate why) but not when you're first establishing the clinch.

When establishing the clinch, don't use an grip where you interlace your fingers. Instead use a grip where it is hand over hand, or a palm-to-palm "axehandle" type grip. The interlaced grip is much looser than the other two, and requires too much energy to maintain. Also, if the opponent starts pummeling for inside control or arm control, it's actually very easy for you to end up wrenching digits with an interlaced grip.

Once your grip is established, bring your forearms together to vice around the sides of your opponents neck. This is done easily by bringing your biceps in tight and squeezing your elbows together. The biggest and most common mistake when trying to establish the MT Clinch is not putting the requisite amount of pressure needed to control your opponent. From there, bring the opponents forehead to a rest on your collarbone or the middle of your chest.

Here's the finepoint to truly establish control and make your opponent regret the fact that you've got them tied up: Slip you grip lower to the nape of the neck, and lower your center of gravity by stepping back and bending your knees. This will crank his head up/back and expose his jaw and throat. Once in this position you'll find that leading your opponent around will be easy. Further since their head and neck is locked in tight, if they try to lower levels and shoot, or wrap you up with their arms it will be difficult because: 1) It hurts and 2) Your waist and lower body are farther away from them. From this position, your primed to fire away at the body or head of your opponent with knees.

If the opponent starts to step forward to come close, you can counter by stepping back and circling away with the opposite side leg. So if your opponent steps forward with their left leg, you step back with your left and turn to your left 90 degrees. They will need to follow you or they will fall to their right side. If they fall, no problem, start working your ground game. If they follow you to stay upright, right when their other leg starts to come forward shoot your left knee in (since it is in the perfect position to use the attack).

Does that make sense? I hope it does. If anyone is interested, I can give you ways to break the clinch.

Ferdelance 07-27-2006 11:20 PM

Favorite Knock-out Technique?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Onganju
The Muay Thai clinch is when one fighter has control of the other fighter's head and neck (usually by drapping his arms/hands around the back of the neck) in order to effectively throw knees into their head and body. This is how to do the Muay Thai clinch (as posted before):

Yes.How do you break the clinch?I believe that one should always learn the counter to a technique as well as the technique.
Appreciate it. Ferdelance

Onganju 08-01-2006 09:05 PM

I started posting the breaks in this thread here.

Kameleon 08-01-2006 09:59 PM

Another KO technique would be an elbow to the temple on either side of the head. Make sure it's repeated elbows, to ensure a successful KO. :thumbsup:

Spit206Fire 08-01-2006 10:01 PM

Well my favorite is a flying knee.

I've never done it though.

I've only KO'd someone once in compition with a Muay Thai clintch and then a leaping knee to the nose.

Outside of that i usually win by submission :)


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