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Old 08-02-2013, 06:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No more "playing the game"; ABC rules self-grounded fighters are considered standing

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Ass...Fighters-54439

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The ABC recommends that assigned referees discuss the following additional deviation at future rule meetings:

Referees should instruct the fighters that they may still be considered a standing fighter even if they have a finger or portion of the hand (or entire hand) on the canvas. In the discretion of the referee, a fighter who has a finger or hand on the canvas may still be legally struck in the head with knees and kicks. The referee may decide that the downed fighter is placing his or her finger or hand down without doing so for an offensive or countering maneuver in an attempt to advance or improve their position. The referee may decide that the downed fighter is instead simply trying to draw a foul. If the referee decides that the fighter is “touching down” simply to benefit from a foul, the referee may consider that fighter a standing fighter and decide that no foul has occurred. Additionally, a referee may penalize, via warning or point deduction, the offending fighter for timidity.

The entire document can be found on the Association of Boxing Commissions website.

Not a formal change, but as long as this is upheld in Vegas and California I don't give a damn.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Memories of Belfort almost kicking Jones in the mouth came to mind...
I love it!!!
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Finally.

Standing bent over in arm's reach of the ground is not and never will be a good combat position, if you end up there, you deserve to get kicked in the face.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That's bound to lead to some controversy. Just make it so that fighters standing on their feet are considered standing even if they're bent over and touching the floor with their hands.

This person is not grounded.



And neither is he



Or this guy who got KTFO

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Belfort should of punted Jones head off.
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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They should just make it legal to kick downed opponents in the head regardless. It won't lead to more serious injuries or deaths and would make for more realistic fighting and more finishes.
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They should just make it legal to kick downed opponents in the head regardless. It won't lead to more serious injuries or deaths and would make for more realistic fighting and more finishes.
It would hurt the sport in the west. it just doesn't look good.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It would hurt the sport in the west. it just doesn't look good.
I agree with both of you.
At least we get a common sense rule change, even if it is long overdue.
It would have affected a lot of past fights, and I'm interested how it will affect fights in the future.
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It looks bad and it looks worse when the guy is still laying there when the other guy is getting his hand raise.

I'm not a fan of soccer kicks. I find them cheap, unsporting and really the only sort of thing you'd do if you were in a real streetfight.

That said, if someone bear crawls to the center of the cage I'm all for them getting punted in the face.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:31 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Ya I don't like the idea of kicks to the head of downed opponent, except in the situation rofl is talking about, as seen in the video above. That dude deserved to be punted in the face.
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