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Old 08-15-2013, 04:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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advantage this advantage that, if he's good enough he should be allowed to fight. If he gets the absolute shit beaten out of him then it's his fault, what's with this society of hand-holding. If the kid can beat legitimate fighters and earn his way into the UFC he should be allowed, it is doubtful that he will be able to with such a disability but it shouldn't be the deciding factor. Maybe it's an advantage, maybe it makes him work harder than everyone else. Nobody feels sorry for Forrest when he lost his belt because he broke his hand, let the kid fight and his record will speak for itself. If he leaves a fight bloodied and broken will people feed bad? I wouldn't, he made his choice to fight, he alone gets to deal with consequences and reap the benefits.
I agree with the general idea he should be granted the right if he is good enough, but from the POV of a fan only. Anyway, a line shall exist somewhere in this regard as many others are there dividing countless categories.

Depending on the "consequences", the quotes I've bolded are not what happens in reality when we are speaking of an official sport, event, institution or company. Commissions have to be strict and evolve very carefully when deciding to permit or not something out of ordinary, because when lawyers come into play, it will never be like "that's his fault he wanted to fight like that". Sh!t normally hits the fan and the "told you so" choir will sing "told you so...".

In a parallel example, lots of aircraft pilots (not only airline pilots) lose their medical licenses every year (others applicants never get one) against their will even when the possibility of something bad to happen isn't that bad in our eyes and that is just because the medical board will get responsibility for any consequence that could be linked to a lame judment call. Leave it to the pilot, he'll continue to fly through lots of impairing conditions and hope no doctor find out about them. Pilots, fighters and other professionals are much alike when it comes to career halting issues.
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Old 08-15-2013, 06:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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In a parallel example, lots of aircraft pilots (not only airline pilots) lose their medical licenses every year (others applicants never get one) against their will even when the possibility of something bad to happen isn't that bad in our eyes and that is just because the medical board will get responsibility for any consequence that could be linked to a lame judment call. Leave it to the pilot, he'll continue to fly through lots of impairing conditions and hope no doctor find out about them. Pilots, fighters and other professionals are much alike when it comes to career halting issues.
There is still a major difference. A pilot handles a dangerous machine and can endanger many lives with it (even if it's not an passenger airline pilot, he could fly the plane into buildings in a city), a handicapped fighter puts noone in more danger than a regular fighter.
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There is still a major difference. A pilot handles a dangerous machine and can endanger many lives with it (even if it's not an passenger airline pilot, he could fly the plane into buildings in a city), a handicapped fighter puts noone in more danger than a regular fighter.
A plane is not even close to be a dangerous machine, though.

Anyway it doesn't mean the pilot will straight away crash the plane but the aviation environment itself (pressurization cycles, dry air, lack of oxygen, noise, alternating day/night shifts, Jet Lag/ time difference...) could harm his own health/life, specially if he bears a condition and that alone could be ground for a law suit against the Airline and whoever allowed him to fly.

In fact, two pilots from TAM Airlines just died in the very past week, one onboard, 63 yrs, aicraft diverted, and another, just 47, at the Sao Paulo airport parking lot. Both had their licenses valid and the media is making a circus chasing answers and someone to blame.

I am just saying when it comes to responsibility, from a single life threat to hundreds, lawyer will be seeking for a butt to pin.
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So this is where the sport is taking us now? One handed gimps who can maintain a 10 fight consecutive win streak? I'm excited about the future of MMA, are you?
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So this is where the sport is taking us now? One handed gimps who can maintain a 10 fight consecutive win streak? I'm excited about the future of MMA, are you?
I think he should be applauded rather than be branded a "One handed gimp"...jus sayin'
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So this is where the sport is taking us now? One handed gimps who can maintain a 10 fight consecutive win streak? I'm excited about the future of MMA, are you?
GIMPS?

Your prejudice is as offensive as it can get. This garbage should have no place in these threads.
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So this is where the sport is taking us now? One handed gimps who can maintain a 10 fight consecutive win streak? I'm excited about the future of MMA, are you?
Yes I am excited.

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I underestimated him and he proved me wrong.
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Should be noted that everyone he faces are cans but hey, I have seen in a few reports from his previous fight employer(i think it was legacy fc) that he is a bit of a douche and he also is a diva about fights and contracts an dnot a man of his word.
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Should be noted that everyone he faces are cans but hey, I have seen in a few reports from his previous fight employer(i think it was legacy fc) that he is a bit of a douche and he also is a diva about fights and contracts an dnot a man of his word.
maybe he is a douche, maybe he's not. There are plenty of people that are douches in mma, what does it matter. At the end of the day he's the only one with any liability for what happens to himself, I just don't see how any of this matters. If he's good let him fight, if he gets knocked out cold by his first legit fighter he should probably quit
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