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Old 08-13-2013, 05:54 AM   #11 (permalink)

 
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Old 08-13-2013, 09:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The UFC is paying trash journalists to write stupid articles about competitors nowadays I see. Good, they're scared.

Most people don't care about this political correctness nonsense anymore, I don't agree with WM but no lame joke he makes on twitter makes me think he should be fired. If he actually DOES something wrong then he goes to jail.

I don't care about Bellator but the WSOF show and the Spong fight were good. This is the guy's second mma fight with a completely different ruleset, gloves, takedown threat etc. compared to his home sport, against a 10-2 vet, and apparently the writer expects him to not even get punched once. What a joke. Most of those punches were easily blocked anyway, showcasing excellent technical defense and great technical kicks.
How do you get the UFC is paying them?

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Old 08-13-2013, 10:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Because it seems too viciously biased to be just opinion.

The writer goes out of his way to blow up the smallest things about the "B level" orgs like a so called weak main event which I thought was excellent and far better for free than the junk that the UFC has been putting, some of them ON PAY PER VIEWS lately.

Can anyone really compare the technical chop down by Spong to the pint sized buzzing affair that was Johnson vs Moraga? If he complains about lack of a finish by a guy in his second ever MMA fight, why not complain about a top P4P contender Aldo at his peak not being able to put away in 3 rounds or without freak injury, the guy that George freakin Roop just knocked out?

Can anyone even name any of the brazilian no names on the last PPV that the UFC had the gall to ask $60 for, apart from the main and co-main (which was a boring sleeper of a fight)? I know I could name at least half the WSOF card, K1 champs like Spong and Sefo, fast paced top 15 LWs like JZ and Griffin, top 20 WWs like Gerald Harris (one of the UFC's worst cuts, 3-1 in the UFC and let go after a single loss to Falcao) and Santiago etc.

What tasteful elite action was the UFC showcasing in it's 4th ever show? Oh yeah some future rapist named Joe Son being punched in the nads.

Not only does he harp about irrelevant points about the other orgs, he goes on to praise stupid stuff about UFC shows like giving out Harleys. Again, what did the UFC give out in their fourth card? Heck what other org even had sponsors so early? And harping about Rutten's commentary and jokes as if girly shrieking pothead Rogan and clueless Goldie are the epitome of class. At least Bas has actually fought, and isn't a clueless zombie on the mike like the UFC's fighter commentators like Stann who can't even see a punch landing.
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Because it seems too viciously biased to be just opinion.

The writer goes out of his way to blow up the smallest things about the "B level" orgs like a so called weak main event which I thought was excellent and far better for free than the junk that the UFC has been putting, some of them ON PAY PER VIEWS lately.

Can anyone really compare the technical chop down by Spong to the pint sized buzzing affair that was Johnson vs Moraga? If he complains about lack of a finish by a guy in his second ever MMA fight, why not complain about a top P4P contender Aldo at his peak not being able to put away in 3 rounds or without freak injury, the guy that George freakin Roop just knocked out?

Can anyone even name any of the brazilian no names on the last PPV that the UFC had the gall to ask $60 for, apart from the main and co-main (which was a boring sleeper of a fight)? I know I could name at least half the WSOF card, K1 champs like Spong and Sefo, fast paced top 15 LWs like JZ and Griffin, top 20 WWs like Gerald Harris (one of the UFC's worst cuts, 3-1 in the UFC and let go after a single loss to Falcao) and Santiago etc.

What tasteful elite action was the UFC showcasing in it's 4th ever show? Oh yeah some future rapist named Joe Son being punched in the nads.

Not only does he harp about irrelevant points about the other orgs, he goes on to praise stupid stuff about UFC shows like giving out Harleys. Again, what did the UFC give out in their fourth card? Heck what other org even had sponsors so early? And harping about Rutten's commentary and jokes as if girly shrieking pothead Rogan and clueless Goldie are the epitome of class. At least Bas has actually fought, and isn't a clueless zombie on the mike like the UFC's fighter commentators like Stann who can't even see a punch landing.
So, who is paying all the journalists with blatant anti UFC bias's (Here is looking at you Brent Brookhouse)?
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This basically goes back to the fact that no side is really clean in this industry. UFC is out to destroy Bellator and Bellator's out to take on the UFC. Both are willing to do nasty stuff, but I don't think either are paying reporters to write bad articles on either.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Because it seems too viciously biased to be just opinion.

The writer goes out of his way to blow up the smallest things about the "B level" orgs like a so called weak main event which I thought was excellent and far better for free than the junk that the UFC has been putting, some of them ON PAY PER VIEWS lately.

Can anyone really compare the technical chop down by Spong to the pint sized buzzing affair that was Johnson vs Moraga? If he complains about lack of a finish by a guy in his second ever MMA fight, why not complain about a top P4P contender Aldo at his peak not being able to put away in 3 rounds or without freak injury, the guy that George freakin Roop just knocked out?

Can anyone even name any of the brazilian no names on the last PPV that the UFC had the gall to ask $60 for, apart from the main and co-main (which was a boring sleeper of a fight)? I know I could name at least half the WSOF card, K1 champs like Spong and Sefo, fast paced top 15 LWs like JZ and Griffin, top 20 WWs like Gerald Harris (one of the UFC's worst cuts, 3-1 in the UFC and let go after a single loss to Falcao) and Santiago etc.

What tasteful elite action was the UFC showcasing in it's 4th ever show? Oh yeah some future rapist named Joe Son being punched in the nads.

Not only does he harp about irrelevant points about the other orgs, he goes on to praise stupid stuff about UFC shows like giving out Harleys. Again, what did the UFC give out in their fourth card? Heck what other org even had sponsors so early? And harping about Rutten's commentary and jokes as if girly shrieking pothead Rogan and clueless Goldie are the epitome of class. At least Bas has actually fought, and isn't a clueless zombie on the mike like the UFC's fighter commentators like Stann who can't even see a punch landing.
The UFC's fourth show was in 1994, not 2013, times are different. The sport has evolved, you just seem like someone who belongs in the anti-Zuffa crowd, hating on everything they do.

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Old 08-14-2013, 12:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The UFC's fourth show was in 1994, not 2013, times are different. The sport has evolved, you just seem like someone who belongs in the anti-Zuffa crowd, hating on everything they do.

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I was actually a big UFC fan back in the day when everyone thought Pride was the cool thing. I just see it going downhill because of poor management, matchmaking and business ethics.

WSOF seems like a good alternative so far, solid exciting cards for free, decent pay for the fighters for how small they are and not even having a PPV model. Bellator is equally shady as the UFC of course so don't really care either way.

I can tell biased journalism when I see it though, they try way too hard. It's like Fox news internet style.

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So, who is paying all the journalists with blatant anti UFC bias's (Here is looking at you Brent Brookhouse)?
Most points people make about the UFC are far more valid though than any of the stretches in this article though. Like fighter pay, undeserved title shots, boring divisions, diluted over-saturated cards. Aside from hiring Rogers, there is not a single valid criticism of that sort against WSOF. And yeah they hired ONE guy with a questionable background who by the way is a free man allowed to seek employment by the legal system of the country. What about serial roiders like Belfort hired by the UFC and in fact encouraged to dodge the system by gifting them special shows in Brazil? Who unlike Rogers are NOT allowed to fight under their circumstances by the legal system of the country where the UFC is based.

Besides it's normal to critique the big show because people expect a lot for $60. For a free card by a new org, WSOF was a better value for time and money than the product that the UFC is diluting more and more.
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WSOF wasn't bad at all but someone needs to snatch the mic from Todd Harris. You could tell it was f'n up Bas's game. They should bring in that bald dude from Showtime, I can't remember his name. I also felt Spong wasn't pulling the trigger on is punches at all but what do you do that stuff happens. But the commentary was horrible.
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WSOF wasn't bad at all but someone needs to snatch the mic from Todd Harris. You could tell it was f'n up Bas's game. They should bring in that bald dude from Showtime, I can't remember his name. I also felt Spong wasn't pulling the trigger on is punches at all but what do you do that stuff happens. But the commentary was horrible.
Spong must have floored DeAnda a dozen times with leg kicks though, that has to be some sort of record. Yeah he wasn't completely loose on his punches but it was his 2nd MMA fight, give him time to adjust ... would you rather he end up like Sefo?
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Honestly Sefo fighting on this card brings back to mind the guy who ran Affliction.
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