Frank Shamrock interview
New Frank Shamrock interview makes some good points and while he still sounds like an asshole he shows signs he might be growing up which is a good sign for all of the fans of the old Frank
FRANK SHAMROCK INTERVIEW -- PART ONE
Chris Howie of *******.com: This is Chris Howie for *******.com and Iím here today with former UFC Middleweight champion and current Elite XC star Frank Shamrock. How are you today Frank?
Frank Shamrock: Iím doing well.
*******.com: You have the much anticipated fight with Phil Baroni coming up at the EliteXC/Strikeforce: Judgment Day show on June 22 at the HP Pavillion in San Jose, CA. How are things going for that fight?
Frank Shamrock: They are going fantastic. I started about eight weeks out and Iím ready to fight today or tomorrow but Iím holding it all inside.
*******.com: Are you looking forward to getting in there with him [Baroni]?
Frank Shamrock: Oh yeah. Itís been a long time coming - almost two and a half years weíve been working on this fight. Itís hard when youíre an independent but I think this is going to be a big deal and a good time.
*******.com: There has been a lot of back and forth talking between you and Phil and a lot of fans have been waiting a long time to see this. It's refreshing to see the fight get made unlike many other built up grudges that never materialized into a match.
Frank Shamrock: Yeah, it has been a long time. This will be the second fight born, actually the third fight born from the internet. The fans really demand it. To me itís going to be a good time. Philís a great opponent because more than anything he gets out and he markets the fight and he works it. Thatís what you need to be doing in the sport.
*******.com: How do you see the fight going when the first bell sounds?
Frank Shamrock: Well, Iím going to stand him up. I think he lacks real skill and timing in the stand up so Iím going to stand it up and bang it out with him and see what he has to offer. I donít think he understands the level of striking that I do possess. I hope itís a stand up fight. I think it will be a lot more exciting, not only for the new fans that came in with Showtime but I think fans in general will appreciate a good stand up and bang fight.
*******.com: If the fight goes to the ground are you worried there at all?
Frank Shamrock: No. No, no, no. I donít think he is very skilled on the ground. In fact, thatís how I met Phil. A few years ago I was actually training with Jeff Blatnick back in the day and Phil was sitting there like a puppy dog asking questions. Thatís how I became acquainted with him. I donít think he knows anything on the ground.
*******.com: Jeff Blatnick, there is a name I haven't heard in a while.
Frank Shamrock: Yeah man, Jeff and I are from the old school. Anytime we get together we like to wrestle. He's 50 years old man and still goes at it like a 20 year old.
*******.com: [laughs]. After the fight with Phil Baroni where do you see yourself going from there? Any ideas?
Frank Shamrock: I hope to fight Renzo [Gracie] again in September. I plan on fighting every quarter. Iíd really like to get in there with Renzo though and get all that sorted out. The fans deserve better than that. I played a safe game. Next time Iím just going to go out and crush him and not give him a chance to find a way out.
*******.com: I read an interview with Renzo last week in which he said you "have the personality of a dead man and if you were a company youíd be sued for false advertising."
Frank Shamrock: [laughing]. I think that's fantastic. Well I'm glad Renzo is finally getting out there and working it because he didn't do much last time. And then he quit on me to top it off.
*******.com: The way that fight ended did you think he over-reacted?
Frank Shamrock: For one, he needs acting lessons and for two, if he's had acting lessons than he's a terrible actor. You know I've been in a lot of fights throughout my life and when you hit somebody and hurt them they go soft their body changes and their energy changes.
Frank Shamrock: When he stuck his head in front of my knee I knew he was looking for a way out. The moment I touched him I knew that he was going to quit. I could feel it in his body. He was sucking wind like he was an 80 year old man. But hereís how I look at it: God bless him. He found a way out and more power to him.
*******.com: Yeah, I was watching the fight and when it happened it was kind of like... wait, what just happened here?
Frank Shamrock: Yeah. His corner told him to stay down and he was winded as all hell and he was done. I know when a man is done fighting and he was done fighting. He found a way out and that was my bad for letting him find that opportunity. That's how I look at it.
*******.com: In that fight you were controlling the stand up from my perspective but he was taking you down at will. When he got you there he wasn't doing a whole lot though.
Frank Shamrock: Yeah, he just took me down and held me and just prayed that I wouldn't get up and punch him in the head. Here's a master of jiu-jitsu and he took me up and held me in one position and it's like - okay, I was under the impression that we were going to fight a stand up-go down high activity fight. I knew he couldn't keep pace with me. He ran out of things to do. He took the easy way out.
*******.com: So you figure that fight will happen in September?
Frank Shamrock: Yeah, Iím going to try and get him in there in September. It's not decided yet but it should be the next one for me.
*******.com: With the EliteXC, Strikeforce, K-1, and other organizations working together do you think weíll see other Shamrock vs. Gracie fightsÖ maybe Royce Gracie vs. Frank Shamrock?
Frank Shamrock: I really hope so. The door has always been open to the Gracie's. Cesar was the first one to step up and I knocked him out. Renzo was the second one and then he quit on me. I'd have no problem fighting any of them. To be honest with you, I like the younger, more athletic fighters. They bring a better game and show a better fight. My two fights with the Gracie's have both been crap.
*******.com: Who are some of your favorite fighters to watch?
Frank Shamrock: I love the young guys man. I love Georges St. Pierre and Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes is getting older though. I love Mirko CroCop though it was sad to see him get smashed. The younger generation has a better handle on the athleticism and the completeness of mixed-martial arts. That's where my style and my mind have been for years, the completeness of MMA. That is the most entertaining thing in the world. This laying and praying crap is boring. This is the most exciting sport in the world and it needs to be presented that way. I just love it when the young guys go for it.
*******.com: Definitely. What did you think of [Matt] Serra's knock out of GSP?
Frank Shamrock: Well you know what? Iíve known Serra for a long time and heís always been on the verge of doing something spectacular. That's what I love about MMA, anything can happen.
*******.com: What is your relationship with Dana White at this time?
Frank Shamrock: I donít have any relationship with that guy at this time. I don't do any business with him.
FRANK SHAMROCK INTERVIEW - PART TWO
*******.com: Do you think weíll ever see you back in the UFC or in PRIDE?
Frank Shamrock: You know I donít know. If Dana is running PRIDE I wonít be in PRIDE. If heís not Iíd love to fight in PRIDE. Iíve always wanted to. I donít believe in who they [UFC] are and what they are doing though. If I donít like you, I donít want you in my life.
*******.com: Thatís understandable.
Frank Shamrock: Why would you want an asshole in your life?
*******.com: With that being said, how do you feel you match up with some of the top ranked Middleweights in the world right now?
Frank Shamrock: I really have no idea. I train everyday and everywhere I go I have a wonderful time training. The world is changed and now itís not about being the best fighter in the world, itís about being the best marketing unit in the world. Dan Henderson is who I would have to say is the toughest at 185 pounds on the planet and Iíd like to fight him.
*******.com: How are things with your IFL team?
Frank Shamrock: Oh they are going great man. Theyíre finally getting it going. It has took us a while to get the team together and get the flow. I couldnít be happier man. They are young and hungry. Weíre basically training them from the ground up and Iíve seen tremendous improvement in these guys. Even in the last two weeks theyíve stepped up and gone to a whole other level. Iím really excited about it. I love the boys.
*******.com: Back in January you faced off against your brother, Ken Shamrockís team. Did you speak with Ken at the time?
Frank Shamrock: No. I havenít spoken to Ken in maybe eight or nine years.
*******.com: Not even at that show?
Frank Shamrock: No. Honestly I never had a serious conversation with the man and I donít have a relationship with him. He never liked me, never wanted me to be involved [with MMA] and he never thought I would be a world champion. He said I didnít have the skills. I proved him wrong and it upset him a little and itís been weird ever since.
*******.com: You once trained with B.J. Penn. Do you speak with him anymore?
Frank Shamrock: Yeah man I talk to him almost every day. B.J. is training his ass off man. He told me to head up to Seattle to do a little bit of training. Iím not really sure what his plans are though.
*******.com: Have you seen any episodes of The Ultimate Fighter 5?
Frank Shamrock: No, I havenít seen it unfortunately. Iím pretty busy these days. At best Iíll get an episode of Boston Legal or Grayís Anatomy in. Other than that I donít really get much TV time.
*******.com: At the end of the season heís fighting Jens Pulver in a rematch from their fight a few years back.
Frank Shamrock: Yeah, I actually helped train B.J. for the first one. I think he should just mash him on this one. I donít really think thereís any question. The last time he let the pressure of fighting weigh him down. Now heís used to it and heís put himself in a good spot mentally.
*******.com: With numerous promotions coming together to do business (K-1, Strikeforce, EltieXC, Cage Rage), do you feel they can compete with the UFC?
Frank Shamrock: Anybody who does good business and has a good business model can compete. All the UFC is, is a bunch of guys with a bunch of money who learned through trial and error and bought a brand that was already established. They didnít do anything spectacular. Iím sure if I bought Kleenex I could make Kleenex a stronger brand. You know what I mean? Itís not rocket science. I donít think they have a competitive edge or anything. They just have having made the first move as their advantage. EliteXC can definitely compete and Iím really pleased seeing them bringing in as many people as possible. Having a monopoly doesnít help everyone it just helps one person and there is enough talent, thereís enough fighting, and enough marketing. Everyone should be sharing the marketing dollar and develop new stars instead of their own stars. So I think they have a tremendous opportunity and Iíll help them anyway I can.
*******.com: Yeah, I saw the show in February and it was a good show.
Frank Shamrock: Exactly. It was a good show. For our first show it was a great show. The value of the production continues to go up and the level of fights are through the roof. If you have all the tools you can definitely make money and if you donít you're not going to make money.
*******.com: Do you ever regret leaving the UFC?
Frank Shamrock: Never. They were going to use me and abuse me and then throw me away like everybody else. When they needed me again theyíd call me up and try and get some more out of me.
*******.com: You came back and did commentary at UFC 32.
Frank Shamrock: Yeah. I did the commentary and I consulted with them. I donít know, Iím at a different time in my life right now. I donít want to go to work and have someone look at me and say ďthereís my piece of meat. How much can I get out of him and how soon can I get it?Ē
*******.com: A question some people wanted to know about was, what was your side to the controversy concerning Pancrase asking Bas Rutten to take a dive so you could win the fight between you and him?
Frank Shamrock: I didnít know there was a controversy. I know nothing about it.
*******.com: Are you working with any charities at this time?
Frank Shamrock: Always. On Motherís Day Iím doing Courageous Kids Day for the American Cancer Society and that will be in San Jose at the Marriotís Great America. I also work with Family First Foundation in Los Angeles and I work with Bridging Borders out of Chicago, IL. and they are all non-profit organizations. And I take care of my boys and thereís a lot of charity there to [laughs].
*******.com: Before we get out of here, is there anything you would like to say to your fans or your critics?
Frank Shamrock: Yeah, Iím just glad I have them. Iíve got fans and critics and what Iíve learned about this business is whether youíre a hero or zero, if you have other people talking about you it doesnít matter. I do what I do and some people like it, and other hate it but Iím just going to keep doing what Iím doing. If it makes people happy, great, and if it makes people angry, great, and if you buy a PPV, even better.
*******.com: Itís like the old saying goes, any publicity is good publicity.
Frank Shamrock: Hey, I mean if youíve ever spent a few minutes with me you know in my heart and soul Iím a good man and I try to do good things for everybody and thatís all I need to have in my life. The rest of it is all fun and B.S. Ö you know, sell tickets and have a good time.
*******.com: Yeah, for sure. Frank, Iíd like to thank you for taking the time out to talk with me today. Good luck in your fight with Phil Baroni at the EliteXC/Strikeforce show on Showtime and PPV on June 22nd.
Frank Shamrock: Right on man. Thanks I appreciate it and thanks for the time.