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Old 07-10-2007, 04:02 PM   #21 (permalink)
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...I did over look the Boxing aspect involved with MMA. We have seen what it can do, and how many MMA fighters have boxing trainers? Probably all of them. Obviously the stand-up would favor the Boxer. Bottom line is Boxing & Martial Arts are different. It's comparing apples to oranges. There is quite a difference between an Arm Triangle and a left hook.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:36 PM   #22 (permalink)
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...I did over look the Boxing aspect involved with MMA. We have seen what it can do, and how many MMA fighters have boxing trainers? Probably all of them. Obviously the stand-up would favor the Boxer. Bottom line is Boxing & Martial Arts are different. It's comparing apples to oranges. There is quite a difference between an Arm Triangle and a left hook.
Why does everyone think that a boxer has better striking than an MMA fighter? Boxing is just ONE version of striking and not a very effective one at that (used primarily for scoring points with heavy gloves, no below the belt movement). Anyone with decent Muay Thai training would MURDER a good boxer in the ring. Striking does not end with throwing punches, boxing is good for learning good foot movement and punching combinations (fundamentals) but once you throw in leg licks, knees, use the clinch, throw elbows, etc a boxer would be completely outclassed.
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Old 07-10-2007, 04:56 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Striking does not end with throwing punches, boxing is good for learning good foot movement and punching combinations (fundamentals) but once you throw in leg licks, knees, use the clinch, throw elbows, etc a boxer would be completely outclassed.
I agree. Boxers can take lots of big glove shots cause they only have to keep their hands up. Throw in legs kicks to their exposed legs and you will see those hands drop and the fancy foot work will get slower. I'd put money on an equally skilled Thai boxer any day of the week.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:24 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I agree. Boxers can take lots of big glove shots cause they only have to keep their hands up. Throw in legs kicks to their exposed legs and you will see those hands drop and the fancy foot work will get slower. I'd put money on an equally skilled Thai boxer any day of the week.
Boxers plant their feet. Not good when you get hit by a leg kick. I've heard of boxers getting their legs broken from Thai kicks b/c of how they plant their feet.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:34 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Totally true. This goes for all sports without exception. It's like Michael Jordan saying "well i'm an amazing basketball player so i'll be an amazing baseball player". It just doesn't work that way. It's idiotic for any boxer to challenge an MMA practitioner to step into a boxing ring just as it's idiotic for any boxer to step into an MMA ring. They are speaking of two completely different sports and each has merits as well as cons. Sure they are combat sports but we're comparing apples and oranges here it doesn't matter if they are both fruits they just will never be the same.

On another note, pay does not indicate worth as clearly evident with the salaries the teachers of the world receive in comparison to our entertainers. That's a terrible argument.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:45 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Totally true. This goes for all sports without exception. It's like Michael Jordan saying "well i'm an amazing basketball player so i'll be an amazing baseball player". It just doesn't work that way. It's idiotic for any boxer to challenge an MMA practitioner to step into a boxing ring just as it's idiotic for any boxer to step into an MMA ring. They are speaking of two completely different sports and each has merits as well as cons. Sure they are combat sports but we're comparing apples and oranges here it doesn't matter if they are both fruits they just will never be the same.

On another note, pay does not indicate worth as clearly evident with the salaries the teachers of the world receive in comparison to our entertainers. That's a terrible argument.
Nicely put... but I would like to see mayweather have his ass beat
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:49 PM   #27 (permalink)
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...I did over look the Boxing aspect involved with MMA. We have seen what it can do, and how many MMA fighters have boxing trainers? Probably all of them. Obviously the stand-up would favor the Boxer. Bottom line is Boxing & Martial Arts are different. It's comparing apples to oranges. There is quite a difference between an Arm Triangle and a left hook.
very true, but they are both styles of fighting, and in that right they can be compared though they are different. They are different styles of combat sports, not completely different sports all together. Putting a baseball player in a basketball court is one thing, but a boxer who is a fighter, in a ring with mma who is a fighter is not entirely different, though they are different styles. Remember how ufc started in the first place, a lot of different styles taking each other on. Grapplers fighting strikers, which are different styles, and were compared in the ring.
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If I wanted my game to revolve around striking I may do some boxing to learn the fundamentals but I recommend Muay Thai to learn how to be an EFECTIVE striker (making the strikes count towards doing real damage). Boxing alone does not translate well into MMA (IMHO).
What about Forrest Griffin????
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Old 07-11-2007, 02:23 PM   #30 (permalink)
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"May-who?"

That's what people will be saying about him when all is said and done. boxing isn't dieing it's dead and that last over hyped boring slap fest between Oscar and Mayweather was the death blow.

The only reason boxers are talking shit about MMA is because it's the only way for them to get on any attention.
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