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post #31 of 61 (permalink) Old 07-11-2007, 03:52 PM
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This whole conversation is like comparing apples to oranges. Or asking who has more teeth, Rugby players or Hockey players. If we stick to weight classes a top tier boxer will school any mma fighter in a pure boxing match. The tehnical precision required to perform in boxing is something that a multidisciplined mma fighter can't get close to. An mma fighter has to worry about strikes, the clinch, the ground game, submissions, etc. In a boxing match, a world class boxer like Merriweather would run a clinic on any mma fighter at the same weight. On the flip side, if a boxer can excel at their craft, it is a completely different story in the octogon. Do they have "a punchers chance?" Clearly. But they are also going to be exposed a fight where stick and move, jab set ups, and combinations are less effective? Clearly. I started out with 10 years as a boxer. When I made the transition to mma, people I could clean in my sleep (boxing) introduce me to new realms of whoopass. Apples and oranges folks. Apples and oranges
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Nice posts everybody. Intelligent thoughts. Well, a Boxer and an MMA fighter are apples to oranges. Mayweather has never been tagged flush by a 4oz glove, ate several hard flush knees to the face, or got choked to sleep. Let's say a fantasy match between Sherk & Mayweather happened. At Boxing..just stand up, Mayweather would out Box Sean without question. Mayweather doing an MMA fight against Sean...Mayweather wouldn't make it past the 1st round. Sherk would take him down and drop bombs & elbows...It would be ugly...
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...again...If you put a Muay Thai fighter in with a pro Boxer..The Muay Thai fighter would be outboxed quickly then KO'd. Put a Boxer in a Muay Thai fight the Boxer would be KO'd in the first round. Point & case...almost every MMA fighter has a Boxing coach...why?...To improve in their stand-up striking. Liddell got KO after KO...with just 2 hands.
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...again...If you put a Muay Thai fighter in with a pro Boxer..The Muay Thai fighter would be outboxed quickly then KO'd. Put a Boxer in a Muay Thai fight the Boxer would be KO'd in the first round. Point & case...almost every MMA fighter has a Boxing coach...why?...To improve in their stand-up striking. Liddell got KO after KO...with just 2 hands.
on the contrary, what ive head from muay thai guys is that a boxer vs a muay thai artist, assuming equality, the boxer has a greater chance of winning. just a bad matchup, one guy stays away from range and dose huge damage from there, another has to get close in. this is very hard to do on an agile boxer.

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on the contrary, what ive head from muay thai guys is that a boxer vs a muay thai artist, assuming equality, the boxer has a greater chance of winning. just a bad matchup, one guy stays away from range and dose huge damage from there, another has to get close in. this is very hard to do on an agile boxer.
are you saying that Muay Thai guys have to get close in to do damage? legs are longer than arms...



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Here is a vide of a boxer vs. muay thai. Just thought this video might help clear up some things here. YouTube - Boxing vs Muay Thai

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lol if mayweather was losing really badely i bet big john mcaurthy would stop it late
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1. They're two completely different sports.

2. Mayweather's a tool who talks shit to try and get people to watch his fights.

3. Morrison is an even bigger tool. He couldn't even use MMA rules for his first MMA fight.

4. Din Thomas' boxing coach, who is a boxer himself, said he truly believes Din could beat Kermit Cintron standing.

5. Boxers are trying to cash in on MMA's popularity by ripping on it.

6. Yosuke Nishijima was a WBO champion. In MMA, he sucks.

7. They're two completely different sports.

I really don't care is we see boxing vs. MMA fights. In fact, the more i think about it the less I want to.
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This whole conversation is like comparing apples to oranges. Or asking who has more teeth, Rugby players or Hockey players. If we stick to weight classes a top tier boxer will school any mma fighter in a pure boxing match. The tehnical precision required to perform in boxing is something that a multidisciplined mma fighter can't get close to. An mma fighter has to worry about strikes, the clinch, the ground game, submissions, etc. In a boxing match, a world class boxer like Merriweather would run a clinic on any mma fighter at the same weight. On the flip side, if a boxer can excel at their craft, it is a completely different story in the octogon. Do they have "a punchers chance?" Clearly. But they are also going to be exposed a fight where stick and move, jab set ups, and combinations are less effective? Clearly. I started out with 10 years as a boxer. When I made the transition to mma, people I could clean in my sleep (boxing) introduce me to new realms of whoopass. Apples and oranges folks. Apples and oranges. Leviticus


That is an awesome post.

I'm new to MMA but 1 thing I can tell you already,having seen thousands of boxing fights is that NONE of the guys I have seen from MMA(mainly UFC and a few others) can punch for shit and that is how the fight usualy starts.

Their technique is so poor so right from the off,the boxer has the upper hand. They are trained to punch and punch well. Obviously the danger for a boxer would be when he is taken down BUT someone as fast as Mayweather would NOT get taken down easily. He is the perfect hit and not get hit type fighter,if someone can trap him on the ropes,throw 15 plus punches and miss them all,I find it hard to imagine him letting someone get close enough to take him down.

I'd like to add that boxers with one punch KO power with gloves on would be dangerous too.
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This whole conversation is like comparing apples to oranges. Or asking who has more teeth, Rugby players or Hockey players. If we stick to weight classes a top tier boxer will school any mma fighter in a pure boxing match. The tehnical precision required to perform in boxing is something that a multidisciplined mma fighter can't get close to. An mma fighter has to worry about strikes, the clinch, the ground game, submissions, etc. In a boxing match, a world class boxer like Merriweather would run a clinic on any mma fighter at the same weight. On the flip side, if a boxer can excel at their craft, it is a completely different story in the octogon. Do they have "a punchers chance?" Clearly. But they are also going to be exposed a fight where stick and move, jab set ups, and combinations are less effective? Clearly. I started out with 10 years as a boxer. When I made the transition to mma, people I could clean in my sleep (boxing) introduce me to new realms of whoopass. Apples and oranges folks. Apples and oranges. Leviticus


That is an awesome post.

I'm new to MMA but 1 thing I can tell you already,having seen thousands of boxing fights is that NONE of the guys I have seen from MMA(mainly UFC and a few others) can punch for shit and that is how the fight usualy starts.

Their technique is so poor so right from the off,the boxer has the upper hand. They are trained to punch and punch well. Obviously the danger for a boxer would be when he is taken down BUT someone as fast as Mayweather would NOT get taken down easily. He is the perfect hit and not get hit type fighter,if someone can trap him on the ropes,throw 15 plus punches and miss them all,I find it hard to imagine him letting someone get close enough to take him down.

I'd like to add that boxers with one punch KO power with gloves on would be dangerous too.
Well your name says it all, your new to this sport and dont understand how easy it is for a boxer to get taken down. You dont think that mayweather ever clinched in his last fight, or has ever clinched before. It is bound to happen. He cant just try to circle all the time and not get caught up in an exchange. And he doesnt have that one punch KO Power to ko anybody just like that, mayweather wouldnt last one minute in an mma fight, and a pure mma fighter wouldnt last much in a pure boxing fight. But it is very clear that you are biased towards boxing.

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