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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 10-14-2013, 05:21 AM Thread Starter
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Wrestling/MMA in general makes you bigger?

I'm confused. I've been BJJ for quite awhile now, and only just started wrestling. My boyfriend commented that i'm getting bigger and more muscular despite the fact that I have not touched a weight in awhile now!

I never felt big from BJJ, strong, but not big. But doing everything else like the MMA and Wrestling, my boyfriend claims I look thicker on my lower body and my back. Is this natural occurance of that type of training or is he seeing things?
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Yes it's pretty normal, wrestling or MMA wrestling is very intense on your lower body.

It's more so even than pure BJJ or submission grappling because it involves planting legs and full pushes and lifts for long stretches with someone whose bodyweight and muscle power roughly matches your own.

In BJJ it's more about misdirection and using people's own strength to slip and lock them into bad spots, whereas in wrestling you're actively and constantly resisting and pushing back full force against that strength. There are constant lifts, pulls and push-throughs. It's also an adjustment your body makes to lower it's center of gravity, because it's far easier to uproot lanky people's legs and take them down than someone with a square squat built.

All in all, that's why most wrestlers are built like boxes and you'll rarely find any lanky ones except maybe in greco-roman which is upper body centric so some of them may not have as heavy legs but bigger upper backs.

If you're worried about it just go a little easier or lower your intensity, or try greco roman to balance out the upper body. But really it's kind of a brutal muscly sport so if you're worried about that you should really be doing pilates and stuff instead of this.
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Don't know how extensive your weight training used to be, but people always told me wrestling works muscles that weightlifting just wouldn't reach...and works them way harder as there's an element of resistance and force needed that you just can't replicate with weights.

Or so people tell me (never wrestled in my life...so take it with a pinch of salt).
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Yes it's pretty normal, wrestling or MMA wrestling is very intense on your lower body.

It's more so even than pure BJJ or submission grappling because it involves planting legs and full pushes and lifts for long stretches with someone whose bodyweight and muscle power roughly matches your own.

In BJJ it's more about misdirection and using people's own strength to slip and lock them into bad spots, whereas in wrestling you're actively and constantly resisting and pushing back full force against that strength. There are constant lifts, pulls and push-throughs. It's also an adjustment your body makes to lower it's center of gravity, because it's far easier to uproot lanky people's legs and take them down than someone with a square squat built.

All in all, that's why most wrestlers are built like boxes and you'll rarely find any lanky ones except maybe in greco-roman which is upper body centric so some of them may not have as heavy legs but bigger upper backs.

If you're worried about it just go a little easier or lower your intensity, or try greco roman to balance out the upper body. But really it's kind of a brutal muscly sport so if you're worried about that you should really be doing pilates and stuff instead of this.
Makes so much perfect sense now that you say all that.

But listen, it's not too much for me. I'm not worried per say, i'm just making sure that i'm getting thicker muscular wise and not due to food. Besides, I hate pilates!

Again, thank you so much, Liddell. Great advice.

You too cupcake! My weight training used to be very intense. Lots of squats and deadlifts. Gave me a bubble butt, lol. But i felt aches in muscle I didn't realise I had. Deep glute aches and forearms were shaky. My lower back and abs too. Amazing stuff. Who needs weights when you wrestle! Now I know how GSP does it lol
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Wrestling generally leads to denser and stronger muscles, and doesn't result in hypertrophy.

You squatted and deadlifted and got a bubblebutt? Doesn't make a lot of sense honestly, if you mean you got a slightly larger butt because you added muscle I'd guess too many reps led to hypertrophy, but you'd still be leaner, not bigger and softer as bubble butt implies.

From that, I'd guess your diet isn't excellent, which means you are noticing size difference from wrestling because you are carrying fat on top of the muscle. Generally, it's difficult for women to add significant size to just muscle, most women carry a layer of fat, which would lead to a noticeable change from a small amount of muscle gain.

This is speaking just in my experience in the fitness industry, and just what generally is the case, you may be a genetically gifted female or just lucky though.

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Wrestling generally leads to denser and stronger muscles, and doesn't result in hypertrophy.

You squatted and deadlifted and got a bubblebutt? Doesn't make a lot of sense honestly, if you mean you got a slightly larger butt because you added muscle I'd guess too many reps led to hypertrophy, but you'd still be leaner, not bigger and softer as bubble butt implies.

From that, I'd guess your diet isn't excellent, which means you are noticing size difference from wrestling because you are carrying fat on top of the muscle. Generally, it's difficult for women to add significant size to just muscle, most women carry a layer of fat, which would lead to a noticeable change from a small amount of muscle gain.

This is speaking just in my experience in the fitness industry, and just what generally is the case, you may be a genetically gifted female or just lucky though.

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Well by bubble but I don't mean a 'fat ass' or anything, just that my glutes have thickened up quite a bit over awhile. My diet is generally clean, but my ass feels more solid and fuller and stuff, that's all.

It's that that we have a hard time adding size to the upper body, but most women are able to add good size to our legs and butt when we want compared to you men. I see more men with skinny little legs than I see women to be honest.
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I know this is old just wanted to say that what people generally don't understand is that your body doesn't care what the resistance comes from, all it cares about is that it must adapt to it.So thicker,stronger muscles,tendons and bones happen regardless of if the resistance is weights,body weight or another person.Lastly this also means that as long as you practice the SKILL of grappling/Wrestling whatever you do to build strength will work towards helping you be a better sportswoman; as long as what you're doing has a strength to body weight ratio style of training taken into account and explosive movements.
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