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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 08-08-2006, 07:08 PM Thread Starter
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i was reading this artical and i agreed with most of his picks but i was wondering if you had replacements for who he picked





Fantasy fighterUPDATED: 2006-08-05 03:35:56 MST

What you need to custom-build a UFC champ

By JOSE RODRIGUEZ, MANAGING EDITOR


The beauty of mixed-martial arts is that it isn't only about a fighter's fists or chin. Unlike other bloodsports, MMA is a whole-body experience.

So, with that in mind, I'd like to take this opportunity to build the perfect Ultimate Fighting Championship warrior.

Again, this Frankenstein experiment is far from scientific and it's sure to spark some debate over whether this writer hit the mark or missed by a mile.

Anyways, here goes...

FISTS: Chuck Liddell's. Doesn't matter where the Iceman punches from, it tends to land on the button. There are plenty of groggy noggins out there that can attest to that.

CHIN: World heavyweight champ Tim Sylvia has yet to be knocked out in 24 fights as a pro. It could be that many fighters need a ladder to land one on the kisser of the 6 ft.-8-ins., 260- lbs. giant. He has, though, taken some doozies. But after shaking off the cobwebs, has usually comes back to win the fight.

ELBOWS: Canadian David Loiseau takes this one. The Crow, who lost his middleweight title fight with Rich Franklin in March, throws some of the nastiest elbows in the business. Though, after watching Tito Ortiz feed Ken Shamrock in UFC61, Loiseau may be in danger of losing the honour.


LEGS: This is a tough one. There are plenty of guys in the UFC with quick and powerful kicks but not one that stands out in my mind as an obvious winner. So I'll give this one to Rick Franklin.

MOUTH: Though most UFC fighters tend to shy away from trash talking, Tito Ortiz is someone who seems to thrive on it. Remember, this is the guy who gets special T-shirts made taunting the opponent he's just beaten. When it comes to mega-mouths, Tito is in a league of his own, with welterweight Nick Diaz trailing a distant second.

BRAIN: It's not just about the muscles and the limbs. An even keel and a solid strategy make good fighters into champs. This one's a tie. UFC hall-of-famer Randy Couture is one of the nicest men on the planet with a solid but not overwhelming glow of peace and positive energy. Even in losing, there isn't a fighter who's more gracious. The other guy who fits this mould is Canadian Georges St. Pierre. A king of the please and thank-yous until he gets in the ring.

Then, there's technique...

GROUNDANDPOUND: Matt Hughes. The former collegiate wrestler has mastered his own form of ground and pound that no one in the business has yet to match.

SUBMISSION: I gotta go old school when talking about submissions. I'll take legendary limb-twister Royce Gracie circa the mid 1990s. As far as some of the new guys go, Renato 'Babalu' Sobral has won his last five fights by submission.

INTIMIDATION: Yes, the sheer fear factor. Hands down, Jeff 'The Snowman' Monson. He kinda looks like a mix between the Michelin Man and Mr. Clean after a drunken sailor's shore leave at a tattoo parlour.

ENDURANCE: Jeremy Horn. At age 30, this guy's already got 96 pro fights under his belt. Enough said.
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Here's mine.

FISTS: I'd agree chuck liddell has some of the best fists

CHIN: Although Tim Sylvia has a good chin i'd also like to mention a guy who i don't think has taken the punches Sylvia has but has been punched in the face a ton and still stood up, Nick Diaz, he took a ton of punches from Sean Sherk whos got muscles and strength that rival matt hughes.

ELBOWS: David Loiseau easy, tito isn't even close to the speed and aim Loiseau has.


LEGS: This one's tough, i'd like to say Rich/Liddell/ but im going to go with someone who's got some of the meanest kicks ever and thats Yves Edwards.

MOUTH: Tito hands down.

BRAIN: Randy and GSP are good but i also think Sherk and Franklin just fight the fight and then give props afterwards and are very humble.


GROUNDANDPOUND: I'd have to Say Tito, Loiseau, and Hughes.

SUBMISSION: Eh Royce is a gimmie, so im going to go with Dean Lister, hes simply amazing with his submissions.

INTIMIDATION: I'd say Tim Sylvia, for the simple fact that AA seemed to be so scared of him after he lost the 2nd match they had that it made him loose the 3rd fight imo.

ENDURANCE: Jeremy Horns a gamer but i think Tito, Hughes, Sherk, and Liddell have the best endurance around.

What is it that is going to be on your mind when you're on your death bed? Will it be the tedious years of 9 to 5, or the memory of some great acheivement. Maybe a moment you stood in glory to the applause of millions.
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ENDURANCE: Jeremy Horns a gamer but i think Tito, Hughes, Sherk, and Liddell have the best endurance around.
i dont think Liddells endurance isnt that great

and Chin hands down goes to Cabbage
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Liddell best endurance "???? lol i can name about 100 fighters off the top of my head with WAY WAY better cardio then Chuck
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I might feel bad if i leave out some guys who truley deserve to be in there , so im going to do my top 3 for each category

Fists: 1.Fedor Emelianenko 2.Mark Hunt 3.Chuck Liddell

Chin: 1.Mark Hunt 2.Nog 3.Gomi

Elbows: 1.Loiseau 2.Tito 3.Tanner

Legs: 1.Mirko Filipovic 2.Chuck 3.Bas

Mouth: 1.Nick Diaz 2.Phil Baroni 3.Frank Trigg

Brain: 1.Fedor Emelianenko 2. Matt Hughes 3. Rich Franklin

GnP: 1.Fedor Emelianenko 2.Matt Hughes 3.Tito Ortiz

Submission: 1.Nogueira 2.Jeremy Horn 3.Dean Lister

Intimidation: 1.Wanderlei Silva 2.Chuck Liddell 3.CroCop

Endurance: 1.Tito Ortiz 2.Matt Hughes 3.Wanderlei Silva

Slams: 1.Matt Hughes 2.Rampage 3.Kevin Randleman

Wrestling: 1.Matt Hughes 2.Kevin Randleman 3.Tito Ortiz

Clinch/Knees: 1.Wanderlei Silva 2.Allistair Overeem 3.Shogun Rua

Takedown defense: 1.Chuck Liddell 2.Mirko CroCop 3.GSP

Heart: 1.Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 2.Wanderlei Silva 3.Fedor Emelianenko

Team: 1.Team Punishment 2.ChuteBox 3.MFS
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Tito Ortiz or Matt Hughes have the best endurance hands down not Chuck. Chuck gets tired in the third round. Tito can last all five rounds and has ever since that lost to Shamrock. Ever since then hes a cardio machine.

Elbows: Loiseau hands down
Fists/Striking: Chuck Liddell
Kicking: Crocop
Submissions: Babalu or maybe Rodrigo Nogueira
Chin: Cabbage, no one has a better chin than him. He can last three rounds being a punching bag and still not even feel it.
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Cabbage does have agood chin but he has been dropped/rocked and KO'd in the past , i believe Hunt can take a helluva harder punch then Cabbage , but hey everyones entitled to their own opinion
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Samoan mixed martial artists or Hawaiians have heck of chins for some reasons such as Hunt, Cabbage, you name it lol. But I think Cabbage has the best chin. Every time the ref stops the fight he gets all mad and wants to go on lol such as that Sylvia and Arlovski fights he had.
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Fists: 1.VITOR BELFORT 2 MARK HUNT 3 FEDOR EMILIANENKO

Chin: 1.Mark Hunt 2.CABBAGE 3.FUJITA

Elbows: 1.Loiseau 2.Tito 3.JOE STEVENSON

Legs: 1.Mirko Filipovic 2.ANDERSON SILVA 3.YVES EDWARDS

Mouth: 1.PHIL BARONI 2.FRANK TRIGG 3.TITO

Brain: 1.Fedor Emelianenko 2. PAT MILITICH 3. RICKSON GRACIE

GnP: 1.Fedor Emelianenko 2.Matt Hughes 3.Tito Ortiz

Submission: 1.BIG NOG 2.RICKSON GRACIE 3.RICARDO ARONA

Intimidation: 1.Wanderlei Silva 2.CROCOP 3.TITO

Endurance: 1.Tito Ortiz 2.Matt Hughes 3.FEDOR

Slams: 1.RAMPAGE 2.HUGHES 3.Kevin Randleman

Wrestling: 1.RANDY COUTURE 2.RULON GARDNER 3.JOSH KOSCHECK

Clinch/Knees: 1.SHOGUN 2.WANDELEI SILVA 3.ALLISTAIR OVEREEM

Takedown defense: 1.Chuck Liddell 2.Mirko CroCop 3.GSP

Heart: ALL THESE GUYS HAVE HUGE HEARTS TO DO WHAT THEY DO, SO TO PICK JUST THREE WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE TO ALOT OF REALLY BIG HEARTED GUYS

Team: 1.MFS 2.ChuteBox 3.TEAM QUEST( HATE THEM BUT THEY GOT TOUGH GUYS)




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2.BJ
3.Fedor
4.Kos
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Fists: 1. Fedor Emelianenko 2. Chuck Liddell 3. Vitor Belfort (when he was in his prime)

Chin: 1. Wesley Correira 2. Mark Hunt 3. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Tito also has a good chin)

Elbows: 1. David Loiseau 2. Tito Ortiz 3. Randy Couture (if you saw him do it to Van Arsdale)

Legs: 1. Mirko Filipovic 2. Yves Edwards 3. Rich Franklin

Mouth: 1. Quinton Jackson 2. Phil Baroni 3. Frank Trigg (But he sucks at it)

Brain: 1. Bas Rutten 2. Rickson Gracie 3. Pat Miletich

Ground and Pound: 1. Fedor Emelianenko 2. Mark Coleman 3. Georges St. Pierre

Submission: 1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira 2. Ricardo Arona 3. Renato Sobral

Intimidation: 1. Wanderlei Silva (hate to admit it) 2. Quinton Jackson 3. Tito Ortiz

Endurance: 1. Tito Ortiz 2. Fedor Emelianenko 3. Matt Hughes

Slams: 1. Quinton Jackson 2. Kevin Randleman 3. Matt Hughes

Wrestling: 1. Randy Couture 2. Josh Barnett 3. Rashad Evans

Clinch/Knees: 1. Wanderlei Silva 2. Bas Rutten 3. Ken Shamrock

Takedown defense: 1. Fedor Emelianenko 2. Chuck Liddell 3. Georges St. Pierre

Heart: 1. Ken Shamrock (Hate to admit it) 2. Vitor Belfort 3. Randy Couture (Every fighter has heart for what they do)

Team: 1. Chute Boxe 2. Miletich Martial Arts 3. Team Punishment

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