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Old 05-27-2007, 04:18 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Give me a break Shogun is not that good. Everytime I say Shogun is not that good on this forum I've gotten 2 to 3 neg reps on average.
Have you seen him fight???? Watch the 2005 MWGP, and than tell me he isnt that good
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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We all know that Rampage wants no part of the Chute Box boys. Especially Shogun
oh yes he does. gotta respect someone that wants to fight someone that whipped his ass. at least he's not sitting back asking for easy fights, he wants to fight the best in the world.
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Old 05-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I've replied to this twice on two different posts. He has lost to Sobral and Coleman. Only have beaten three opponents worth beating Overreem twice, Arona ( he didn't show up in that fight don't know why happens with that guy at least twice I know of, but he might have been tired from all the previous fighting), and Jackson which all he did was clinch then throw Muay Thai knees. Jackson will have a defense next time guaranteed for knees and kicks. Sokoudjou and Jackson might be the best LHW out there it is definitely not Shogun.
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Old 05-27-2007, 05:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I've replied to this twice on two different posts. He has lost to Sobral and Coleman. Only have beaten three opponents worth beating Overreem twice, Arona ( he didn't show up in that fight don't know why happens with that guy at least twice I know of, but he might have been tired from all the previous fighting), and Jackson which all he did was clinch then throw Muay Thai knees. Jackson will have a defense next time guaranteed for knees and kicks. Sokoudjou and Jackson might be the best LHW out there it is definitely not Shogun.
The Babalu loss was an impressive war and it was his 4th fight against a guy who had faced Liddell and Fedor.
The Coleman loss was a fluke injury it's a loss but to use it against him makes no sense.
And He has wins over Nakamura and lil nog that you forgot to mention.
Add in the fact that Jackson should have 7 losses not 6 since everyone even he knows that Ninja beat him.
Jackson has some very impressive wins Liddell x2 , Bustamante, Arona even though he did kind of head butt him,and Igor but he has some victories Lindland and Ninja that were questionable while all of Shogun's wins were pretty clear cut.
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And Sokky has two fights he's not a top 2 LHW yet It hasn't even been a year since he got KO by Glover
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While Shogun may not be as good as some hype him up to be..no fighter ever is. one could make the argument that even Fedor is overhyped, i'm not going to, but i'm sure it can be done. the facts are that Shogun is the future of the sport and he is an amazing fighter. who cares if he lost to Babalu? unless you are saying Babalu was a terrible fighter at that time? in which case you are saying Jeremy Horn also sucks since Babalu also beat Horn around that time. Hard to say would would have happened in the coleman fight, it was a freak accident. but even if it hadn't happened that way and coleman went on to win, Coleman is still a weightclass above him. have to be pretty delusional to not see that Shogun has talent, how can you ignore his 16 wins and only focus on 2 loses? everyone loses sometimes, does that mean they suck? hell no!
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If rampage is going to fight Shogun i think that the UFC rules will put him at less of a disadvantage than when he fought Shogun during pride. Basically no soccer kicks, no knees to head on the ground, stomps etc.
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If rampage is going to fight Shogun i think that the UFC rules will put him at less of a disadvantage than when he fought Shogun during pride. Basically no soccer kicks, no knees to head, stomps etc.
you are completely correct. all rampage has to do is fight Shogun while on his knees, its foolproof
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Does anyone know what injuries Rampage sustained when he fought shogun? He started running after a few hard knees to the body and when the fight was over he was holding his chest near his heart. Did he suffer a broken rib in that area because thats scary.
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Ya he broke some ribs, don't know how many though.

baz00ca, that was damn hilarious. Now I got this image of Rampage chasing after shogun on his knees all around the octagon.
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