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post #11 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-28-2007, 11:22 AM
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lol is anyone else on??^^if it was an illagal knee would the ref have stopped it and given jardine time to regain his composure?
They probably would have done that and then taken away a point from the scoring in favor of Keith
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post #12 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-28-2007, 01:00 PM
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This point was brought up by a friend while watching in the bar, but he said that the reason he probably wasn't warned or whatever is because he didn't even have to knee the guy to beat him. Jardine was getting destroyed with or without the knee...watch the fight again if ya have any doubts.
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I thought it was when I saw it during live play. Then I looked at it last night and jardine wasn't even down yet. Congrats to Alexander!
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The knee was to the chest, and the hammer fists seemed to be landing near the back of the head, but glancing off the side. This seems to be ok and allowed most of the time. It's only direct straight shots that are usually mentioned.


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As I have said in the other posts, the knee Alexander threw was not illegal. Jardine was not down. This is similar to the knee Diego knocked out Joe Riggs with.

I asked Houston what the rule was, because I understood that you can not knee a fighter on all fours (The rule only states grounded opponent), but he said Mazzagatti told him before the fight you can not knee when his knees are touching the mat, and Jardine's were not. In either case, Houston also said he used the knee to push him back up against the cage and not as a strike.

Either way, not illegal. Jardine had one knee down, not both. Give him credit for the win. He had knocked out Jardine 3 separate times and not with knees or hammerfists. If you want to be controversial, why not question why Mazzagatti let him go so long when Jardine could have been seriously hurt.
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why not question why Mazzagatti let him go so long when Jardine could have been seriously hurt.
If anything I think they have been stopping fights too early lately. Ivan's fight was a perfect example. Ivan wasn't out and was defending himself. How many times have we seen a grapler in the same position roll for a leg or roll out after the covering up for the initial barage. Ivan is just a class act he didn't cry about it but I wouldn't fault him if he was pissed at the stopage.
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if i remember correctly, i thought they were illegal, but it looked like he was up on his feet--however squatted--so they were legal. gotta watch the moment in question again for sure...

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It wasn't the knee tht put him away. I don't think it was intentional either. I think when HA stepped forward it connected. It was the uppercut that put him to sleep.
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yeah it was but it didnt land the way it would have too to make it illegal, i still think the ufc needs to say something to the guy, i didnt like how he acted at all, he seemed to enjoy the fact he hurt jardine, but that knee coulda been worse if he had connected fully
I agree, i hated the way he acted like he was all hard and how he said he wasnt hurt when he got blasted early in the fight. I can't stand the guy or his mishapen abs lol. I hope he gets KTFO'd in his next fight. On the post topic, even if the knee landed it wouldnt have changed a thing and it wasnt thrown with any power or IMO any intent and the ref probly made a judgement call not to stop it because if he did he would have given Jardine time to recover and that would have completely changed the fight so i think it was a good call
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