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View Poll Results: What are your feelings on the PRIDE situation?
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Mostly happy, but also a little sad
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Mostly sad, but also a little happy
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Completely happy
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Completely sad
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32.26% |
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Don't care/Other
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05-28-2007, 03:52 PM
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I eat babies
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Troy, Ohio
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How does everyone feel about what's happening to PRIDE?
I'm just curious how everyone on this site feels about this so I made a poll. As you all may or may not know PRIDE is pretty much gone as we once knew it. In the UFC71 press conference Dana says many times that everyone in PRIDE will eventually all be in the UFC...even the Japanese fighters. So PRIDE will either just die off or they will have it as a lower organization for building up B level fighters.
What are you going to miss most about PRIDE?
What are some of the good things to come out of this?
Do you feel this is a good trade, losing PRIDE for getting unlimited dream matches?
Do you wish this ever happened?
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05-28-2007, 03:55 PM
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Flyweight
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by WouldLuv2FightU
I'm just curious how everyone on this site feels about this so I made a poll. As you all may or may not know PRIDE is pretty much gone as we once knew it. In the UFC71 press conference Dana says many times that everyone in PRIDE will eventually all be in the UFC...even the Japanese fighters. So PRIDE will either just die off or they will have it as a lower organization for building up B level fighters.
What are you going to miss most about PRIDE?
What are some of the good things to come out of this?
Do you feel this is a good trade, losing PRIDE for getting unlimited dream matches?
Do you wish this ever happened?
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What are you going to miss most about PRIDE?
I will miss there rules how you had a lot more freedom in the ring than in the UFC and how they let fights go a lot longer without stoppage. Also how there was a 10 minute first round which most fights would end. |
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05-28-2007, 03:58 PM
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Featherweight
Join Date: Mar 2007
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i am really gonna miss the GPs. those were alot of fun. and i do think it kinda sucks in a way they are combining the two. I kinda liked the idea of having separate organizations but occasionally bringing over fighters for a once a year superfight sort of thing
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05-28-2007, 04:01 PM
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I eat babies
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Location: Troy, Ohio
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Originally Posted by xbrokenshieldx
i am really gonna miss the GPs. those were alot of fun. and i do think it kinda sucks in a way they are combining the two. I kinda liked the idea of having separate organizations but occasionally bringing over fighters for a once a year superfight sort of thing
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That's what I'm gonna miss the most. The Gran Prixs are just awesome. The superbowl idea sounded good but having a superbowl fight or 2 every ppv is also sweet. I wish they would have done what they originally told us though. |
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05-28-2007, 04:06 PM
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Light Heavy Champ
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
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im a bit happy that we will get to see some dream fights, but i'm also a bit sad.
things i will miss most: the entrances(Including Lenne) and the parade of fighters because Pride made all the fighters to seem like superheros. i will also miss the rules especially the knees to the head of a downed opponent and the yellow card system that forced the action. I will really miss the GP's, i love the tourny format, it is the only true way to find out who is best. I guess its a bit bittersweet while we get to see some dream matches, there is also so much that i will miss. i would almost trade all those dream matches for Pride back as it was...almost
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05-28-2007, 04:10 PM
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I eat babies
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Originally Posted by baz00ca
im a bit happy that we will get to see some dream fights, but i'm also a bit sad.
things i will miss most: the entrances(Including Lenne) and the parade of fighters because Pride made all the fighters to seem like superheros. i will also miss the rules especially the knees to the head of a downed opponent and the yellow card system that forced the action. I will really miss the GP's, i love the tourny format, it is the only true way to find out who is best. I guess its a bit bittersweet while we get to see some dream matches, there is also so much that i will miss. i would almost trade all those dream matches for Pride back as it was...almost
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I was just gonna mention how PRIDE's presentation is so much better than UFC's. I have always said that the reason people are saying PRIDE has better fighters and all that was solely because of their presentations. Sure, PRIDE has some badass mofo's in it, but overall I think they are even with the UFC and always have been. The way the fans treat the fighters and the way they make it seem like the winner of each fight just saved the entire world from apocolypse was the reason people thought this way. It's a propoganda effect. It works, and I like it, I just hate the whole PRIDE vs UFC debate. If UFC had the same presentations then that debate wouldn't even be around IMO. |
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05-28-2007, 04:35 PM
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Chocolate City
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Washington, DC
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Tournies, Soccer kicks, stomps, ground knees, the fact you get to see all the fights, I prefer the ring to the cage, I like how the fighters were always given a chance to say a few words of their own design rather then answer 3 cliche questions then hustled off the floor, freak fights, Lenne Hardt, the fighter lineup in the beggining, and probably a bunch of other shit im forgetting right now.
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05-28-2007, 04:43 PM
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attention whore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Branson, Missouri
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I'll miss the way Pride looked for talent all over the world. Seriously, some talent was laughably awful (Dos Caras Jr.), but some were really fun to watch (Most of Russian Top Team, but mainly Sergei & Atajev), Sokky, etc etc.
But, I'll be honest, I think this will end up being a good thing, because we'll finally get to see who are the best fighters in the world. I mean, there are no boundaries now. And, of course, we get some dream matches. I just hope they bring in Sokky & Shogun, especially Shogun.
I'll also miss the freakshow fighters. Seriously, they were oddly entertaining, and they were a fun spectacle. I'll miss Giant Silva and his water buffalo hair.
Also, I'll miss Mark Hunt and his atomic butt drop.
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05-28-2007, 04:56 PM
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Chocolate City
Join Date: Oct 2006
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They could make a movie about Giant Silva, I dont think Ive ever rooted so hard for some guy to win in my life. It was almost heart breaking to watch him lose.
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05-28-2007, 05:17 PM
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Amatuer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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I'm really torn on this one but I think I will have to say mostly happy, especially with an eye to the future.
I loved the fact that there was another company out there who put on great shows and you could pretty much count on two amazing PPV's per month or two.
I also loved the variation of the shows, Pride was all about flash and style, and even a little circus. Some great fighters but nearly every card had some type of freak-show on it. While the UFC was kind of bare bones it had some excellent fights. And instead of the freak-shows it showcased more up and comers.
Coming from a Muay Thai background I really missed elbows in Pride. People say elbows are good for nothing but cuts, I want to ask those people if they have been hit by any elbows. I liked the knees on the ground in Pride but I didn't like the stomps and soccer kicks. So a bit of give and take. Also I prefer the cage to a ring, but it's not really a deal breaker.
I will miss all of that but look at everything that we have coming our way.
1- The Super Bowl cards, and this isn't even the big seller for me.
2- The influx of amazing fighters that were previously languishing in obscurity in Japan (for most casual MMA fans, and this honestly is what it's all about). Most American fans have no clue who lil' Nog, Shogun, Fedor, Hendo, Ayoki, Gomi, Silva, Arona, Barnett and Kang are and the list goes on and on. Those fighters will be seen stateside, bringing in a world of new fans. Look at it like this, if you take the Tier A&B fighters in both Pride and UFC you will have 12-14 stacked, and I mean stacked cards every year. Up and coming fighters can go back to shows like WEC or IFL and hone their skills there while we get amazing quality out of our 40$ PPV. Just think about it, cards like UFC 73 can happen every month. And that's one of the best cards I have ever seen.
I think good days are ahead, it's just going to take us some time to mourn over the lost days of our glorious Pride.
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How does everyone feel about what's happening to PRIDE?
