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post #11 of 68 (permalink) Old 05-31-2007, 11:31 AM
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Its reall tough Fedors my clear cut #1 but 2 is a toss up between Big Nog, Bas, Wand, Royce, Hughes, Randy, and Saku.

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Ima go with Matt Hughes or Wanderlei Silva
I was also thinking Matt Hughes. There's a lot that you could name and have a valid point, but he's the guy who first came to my mind from UFC.

I haven't seen enough pride to pick one of them, but I'm sure there are plenty from what I've seen.


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Its reall tough Fedors my clear cut #1 but 2 is a toss up between Big Nog, Bas, Wand, Royce, Hughes, Randy, and Saku.
Damn it...I totally overlooked Couture. Damn you Fine, Hughes or Couture. The only reason I wouldn't say Couture is that he doesn't seem to be able to hold on to a belt. He can get em, but loses them often.


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i would say either wand for his amazing winning streak in pride and his attitude to fight out of his comfort zone and also randy he is mma at its purest an ambassador for the sport
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Pound for pound, I'd say BJ Penn might be second. Besides Jens Pulver, the only fights he's lost were fights that were out of his natural 155 weight class...and even those he showed amazing skills. If he stayed in the lightweight division, I think he'd be a more clear-cut candidate for 2nd best.

Otherwise, I agree with everyone who said it could be Big Nog or Bas Rutten.
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Barring Fedor, I'd say Bas Rutten. El Guapo was, without a doubt, one of the most dominant and influential fighters of all time.

Frank Shamrock, Couture, Sakuraba, & Hughes are just a notch below.

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i'm between big Nog and Cro-Cop.big Nog cause thus far he has been unable to beat only Fedor(well i know he hasn't fought against Cotoure,Liddel etc but this may happen now he's in UFC).Cro-Cop has lost more fights yes but has lots of impressive KOs plus he has been one of the top 5(or 3) in K1.Although i love Shogun as much as Fedor i won't put him on the list cause he's younger and hasn't reach his prime yet.Bas is lovely and maybe he could have been the best but unforunately his career was shattered due to his injuries.
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Barring Fedor, I'd say Bas Rutten. El Guapo was, without a doubt, one of the most dominant and influential fighters of all time.

Frank Shamrock, Couture, Sakuraba, & Hughes are just a notch below.
Man I was about to say that no one has mentioned the #2 fighter which is Frank Shamrock. When he was on he was unstoppable. Bas is top 5 in my mind at #4 right behind Wandy at #3, and in front of Big Nog at #5 who if it wasn't for fighting at the same time as Fedor might be considered the best ever.

P.S. Shogun will be #1 before he retires just give him time
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Royce Gracie isn't an MMA fighter. He's a Gracie Jiu Jitsu fighter that fought in MMA before anyone knew about Jiu Jitsuand didn't know how to defend it. He is nowhere near the 2nd best at all.
thats true, i would have to say couture, frank shamrock, shogun, or maybe even cro cop or big nog.
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Royce Gracie??? Are you guys kidding me?? He beat a bunch of stiffs with no knowledge of bjj. Are you telling me if Royce was in his prime could beat Big Nog? Nogueira would knock him out in 2 minutes. Bas was good, but he isnt quite on the level of guys like Noguiera, Couture, Liddell or Crocop. I dont know if the thread starter meant pound for pound. But if you meant who would win a tournament of the great fighters of all time in their prime. I would have to say Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria would be the favorite based on his sick grappling, crazy chin, and he is a pretty good striker too.




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