loller90278

i raelly cant believe that ur saying a fighter that got completly dominated by ryo chonan *b level fighter* can beat the #1 p4p fighter in the world

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ag8416

Every great fighter has one or more losses to a nobody.
Mirko lost to those 2 black guys (Mcdonald and another). Hughes and couture lost to nobodies early in their career. Besides silva was winning that fight, and he just got caught in the 3rd round.
fedor is one exception; he'll lost though; it's comming. Fighters lose all kinds of matches; learn from those mistakes and become better because of it.

Fedor>all

[quote=ag8416]5. Fedor: I love fedor, but he's 90% You need to watch more of Fedor's fights. He's stood with the best strikers in the world and absolutely owned them at their own game. He's an incredible sambo wrestler, a power puncher and he has the most vicious GnP in the game.

Watch his fight vs Gary Goodridge, Zuluzinho, Mirko, Big Nog, Heath Herring, etc. The man is well rounded in every facet of the sport.

Best at takedowns? I don't think so, sure he can stuff Sean Sherk which is impressive, but we'll really see how good his wrestling is when he wrestles someone the caliber of Josh Koscheck. I'd give best takedowns honor to Randy Couture, he can pretty bring anyone to the canvas.

Also, why should an athlete commit to a submission which is more easily countered than a punch? GSP submitted Justin Bruckmann with an armbar, Pete Spratt and Frank Trigg with Rear Naked Chokes and submitted Dave Strasser with a kimura. Just because you haven't seen him do it, doesn't mean he hasn't.

Matt Serra is a good fighter, but nowhere near the best pound for pound fighter.

He's good but he can't stuff a takedown for his life, ultimately making him drop down the list. He would get owned by Fedor.

Fedor>all

Also, I apologize if I come across as a Fedor nuthugger, because I kind of am. I just think the guy's talent is unmatched in the sport this far.

slapshot

Did you watch the trigg fight? He almost lost it, Matt hughes beat him once so um there tied 1 and 1 so where is this domination? I dont see it. NO WAIT I see it now its hanging from GSP's nutz, OH my bad thats just Aaronman

Sean Sherk might be the best in the ufc in his class and thats debaitable but hes still kind of a truck and not worth mentioning imo.

He's a good fighter but I think his fight with serra shows just how much farther he will need to come to be a elite fighter and it should be fun watching him grow.

I have to say Randy Couture he is one of the only guys I see that has a total game and can beat you any way you let him. I dont care what tim said about his back he almost got knocked the **** out because randy blasted him in his face.

I dont thik you can be good at everything and win in the UFC. You have to be beter than most at something and then when you meet a fighter thats beter than you at that then hope you can use the other skills to beat him too.

Damone

What the hell are you talking about?

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zarny

Fedor
GSP
Shogun
BJ

One of those 4 would be the best all around mma fighter in my opinion. However I think it will be a few years before we see someone who has been training striking, grappling and bjj at the same time since they were 6.

I don't know if any of them though will go down as the Michael Jordon of mma. Fedor is certainly making a strong case and a lot of GSPs nuthugging comes from him being a feakish athlete. His potential seems limitless. I guess only time will tell.

zarny

OK At exactly what point from the bell ringing, GSP tossing Trigg around like a ball of yarn and then taking Trigg's back and choking him out was GSP in danger?

Trigg's only hope was to submit GSP by exhaustion from handing out a beating.

loller90278

stay on track guys, this threads not for p4p best fighters, its who was raised with an mma upbringing

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FredFish1

back to upbringings, not necessarily the best MMA upbringing but it sure as **** is impressive and explains why the hell his head is made of iron. Big nog.
started training judo at 5, hit by a truck at 10 years old, went in to a coma for 4 days, lost ribs and part of his liver. At 10 years old he can take that? WTF.
I also read he's like 80% blind in one eye. One ****ed up upbringing. But amazing fighter none the less.
Overall I'd go with. Fedor for obvious reasons, shogun in second. I'd also say Josh Barnett has a pretty good mix.