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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 06-05-2007, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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Gomi vs Sherk

This would be a lightweight matchup between two physically different guys with different fighting styles. Who would you give the fight to and why?
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Sherk by TKO. Power him into submission.
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sherk by unanimous decision.
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Unfortunately I would have to say Sherk wins this one.

Anyone else feel that Sherk has no business coming into the LW division. I think it's lame when fighters cut that much weight just because they couldn't make it in their more natural weight class. He's cutting a lot the day before the fight for the weigh ins, then rehydrating and taking in calories immediately afterwards. He probably walks into the cage weighing more than a welterweight.

I know a lot of fighters do this, but do you think the UFC should have weigh ins the day of the fight to level the playing feild?
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but do you think the UFC should have weigh ins the day of the fight to level the playing feild?

I have thought about this before and have to agree. I think it would keep the weight classes more legit and protect the fighters health of (sometimes) unhealthy weight cutting.
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I agree with FedorEm25 I would also have to say Sherk wins this one. I think they should have a weigh-in in the locker room before they step into the ring

I had boxed as an amateur while in the Marine corps as a welterweight, 5'8" 157 lbs. the boxing coaches wanted me to lose over 20 pounds because most of my opponents would be over 6 feet. Nonstop badgering, sometimes I would find out a month before a fight my next opponent would be a lightweight so either lose the weight or you're off the team. Refused to lose the weight and was off the team.
My roommate was 6'1" fighting at 139 lbs, he had started out as a light heavyweight and kept cutting weight until he found a weight where he thought he could win the golden gloves.

It seems a though great fighters move up in weight and mid level fighters move down

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I agree with FedorEm25 I would also have to say Sherk wins this one. I think they should have a weigh-in in the locker room before the step into the ring

I had boxed as an amateur while in the Marine corps as a welterweight, 5'8" 157 lbs. the boxing coaches wanted me to lose over 20 pounds because most of my opponents would be over 6 feet. Nonstop badgering, sometimes I would find out a month before a fight my next opponent would be a lightweight so either lose the weight or you're off the team. Refused to lose the weight and was off the team.
My roommate was 6'1" fighting at 139 lbs, he had started out as a light heavyweight and kept cutting weight until he found a weight where he thought he could win the golden gloves.

It seems a though great fighters move up in weight and mid level fighters move down
I definately agree. Weigh them right before they go out. That way, they will be discouraged from cutting weight massively and extremely outmatching their opponent. That way, you'll get more exciting fights between people who are suitably matched together.


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It seems a though great fighters move up in weight and mid level fighters move down
Right. Though the main thing that I don't respect about Sherk is that he isn't a mid level fighter. He was incredibly dominant in the higher weight classes. Only 2 losses out of 35 fights. That's an amazing record. His 2 losses were to Matt Hughes and GSP. Instead of training harder to beat the top shelf welterweights, he took the easy road and cut down to a place where he is by far the physically strongest, and where he only needed to win one fight to become champion.

More respect to guys like BJ Penn who always test themselves with stronger competition.
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Sherk, is an elite fighter I didn't mean to imply he's a mid level fighter.
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Right. Though the main thing that I don't respect about Sherk is that he isn't a mid level fighter. He was incredibly dominant in the higher weight classes. Only 2 losses out of 35 fights. That's an amazing record. His 2 losses were to Matt Hughes and GSP. Instead of training harder to beat the top shelf welterweights, he took the easy road and cut down to a place where he is by far the physically strongest, and where he only needed to win one fight to become champion.

More respect to guys like BJ Penn who always test
themselves with stronger competition.
As a wrestler I kind of agree and kind of dont. I agree because i would prefer to see guys closer to their natural weight. I mean guys like Sherk, Guillard walk around at like 175 and guys like GSP probly walk around at like 190-200 and Rich walks at probably 210-215. Now, If you weight like 163 then I say cut the weight, dont fight up. But if you are already cutting like 10 pounds to make your weight and then you just cut a ton more so you are friggin huge at your weight then that is kind of ridiculous. But, it is nice to have the night to re-hydrate because sometimes even when you are only cutting like 5 or six pounds you still feel like crap when you have to compete a few hours later. Also, I do not think that Sherk cutting to 155 is an easy way out, that cut is probably hard as hell. He looked like a big 170 but you could also blame guys like GSP for him having to cut down further. He was much smaller than GSP and he figured he would rather be the big guy than the little guy trying to play catch up.
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