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Old 06-07-2007, 12:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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It's kind of funny how everyone hugs Bas Rutten's nuts like theyre gonna fly away but everyone hates on Ken Shamrock as this overrated joke of a fighter that doesnt deserve to be in the hall of fame.

Given how their head to heads went.
Ken apologists and hardcore Ken haters balance each other out.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Ken apologists and hardcore Ken haters balance each other out.
yeah but i dont really understand how people can hate him though. i mean hes never disrespectful, only to those disrespectful to him first though ( like tito) yeah he talks alot of crap but only to those who talk crap to him first (once again..like tito)
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:18 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Roger Huerta, he never gets talked about as a top LW. In my mind he is top 10, or at least should be mentioned as on the brink of top 10 status
Roger is so ******* overrated that its not even funny. To be honest it is geting me mad REAL MAD. People really think that he would beat Frankie Edgar
It is Guy and Nate is underrated to
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:42 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Roger is so ******* overrated that its not even funny. To be honest it is geting me mad REAL MAD. People really think that he would beat Frankie Edgar
It is Guy and Nate is underrated to
I guess I don't see how you can call a fighter that is fighting for the title "underrated". Isn't that being shown that people feel that you are the best besides that Champ?
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I guess I don't see how you can call a fighter that is fighting for the title "underrated". Isn't that being shown that people feel that you are the best besides that Champ?
He isn't tought of to be that good and is not really talked about. Like that fight vs Silva has not gotten any real hype
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Guy Mezger is underrated as hell, but nobody mentioned...

GILBERT YVEL!

In fact, Gilbert may have taken too much crap for a bad match vs. Don Frye, because it followed one of the most horrendous KO's in MMA history.

Yvel's flying kick to Gary Goodridge's head made Cro Cop wonder if he could do the same. It took him all the way to Pride 34 to actually show his sick-ass talent again in the correct light.

He put Shoji to bed (unlike MANY to let their fights go to decision), and he did it about two months ago (unlike Guy).

Now of course, there is that Ref-beating incident, but he kicked that ref's ass. A bad fighter would have lost to the referee.

He's not a super grappler, but his strikes make up for it, hands down.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:09 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Guy Mezger is underrated as hell, but nobody mentioned...

GILBERT YVEL!

In fact, Gilbert may have taken too much crap for a bad match vs. Don Frye, because it followed one of the most horrendous KO's in MMA history.

Yvel's flying kick to Gary Goodridge's head made Cro Cop wonder if he could do the same. It took him all the way to Pride 34 to actually show his sick-ass talent again in the correct light.

He put Shoji to bed (unlike MANY to let their fights go to decision), and he did it about two months ago (unlike Guy).

Now of course, there is that Ref-beating incident, but he kicked that ref's ass. A bad fighter would have lost to the referee.

He's not a super grappler, but his strikes make up for it, hands down.
Guy is avery good fighter i wouldn't say he's the most underrated though. I remember at one of the old pride events he was beating Wandy on his feet until he got knocked out and he has a ton of heart
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:27 PM   #28 (permalink)
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yeah but i dont really understand how people can hate him though. i mean hes never disrespectful, only to those disrespectful to him first though ( like tito) yeah he talks alot of crap but only to those who talk crap to him first (once again..like tito)
I honestly believe the people who hate Ken, have only seen him on TUF 3 (And the last 2 Tito beatings). I seem to remember people saying Ken has always been a horrible coach, and that the Den has always sucked. Surely someone, who has somewhat of a brain, could see that the Den was a good camp back in the day.

Ken's smack talkin' doesn't bother me at all. I find it hilarious and, most of the time, it was/is used to generate business.

I agree that Ken get's some undeserved hate, TKO.

Tooled one of my favorite fighters twice.

Ran one of my all time favorite camps.

....It's all good. I'm not even going to bring the awesome sideburns into the equation.
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:01 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I just hate him for what he did to Guy when he pissed off every judge in Japan.

And his ignorance to the fact the sport is evolving
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I honestly believe the people who hate Ken, have only seen him on TUF 3 (And the last 2 Tito beatings). I seem to remember people saying Ken has always been a horrible coach, and that the Den has always sucked. Surely someone, who has somewhat of a brain, could see that the Den was a good camp back in the day.

Ken's smack talkin' doesn't bother me at all. I find it hilarious and, most of the time, it was/is used to generate business.

I agree that Ken get's some undeserved hate, TKO.

Tooled one of my favorite fighters twice.

Ran one of my all time favorite camps.

....It's all good. I'm not even going to bring the awesome sideburns into the equation.
thank you, at least someone besides me appreciates the man
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