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Old 08-15-2007, 04:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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lol.. i think this "berzerker rage" crap youre talking about is just an inability to control emotions and adrenaline. thats an incredibly BAD thing, if you are too emotional in a fight you will be reckless and make mistakes. look at all of the top fighters in MMA. Fedor, Noguiera, Silva, Filho, BJ Penn, etc. all of them are calm and controlled when they fight. its a known fact that a guy whos overly emotional and comes in throwing haymakers will get his ass handed to him to a guy who can control himself and act calmly.
Ok agreed. But you're talking about professional MMA fights....movies are also like that. I'm asking you to think about real life fights you have seen....how many times does the charging bull win? Over 90% in the many many fights I have seen.
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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streetfighting and mma are totally different, being good at one doesnt mean youd be good at the other
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:12 PM   #23 (permalink)
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have you tried applying a rear neck choke in a street fight or in a bar with smashed glass everywhere or the persons who your fighting with has friends who would stamp your face off while your trying to apply a series of submission moves
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:15 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The good thing about mma is it can be adapted to incorperate the different rules/conditions of a street fight also though.
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Old 08-15-2007, 05:23 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Ok agreed. But you're talking about professional MMA fights....movies are also like that. I'm asking you to think about real life fights you have seen....how many times does the charging bull win? Over 90% in the many many fights I have seen.
is this the street fight forum? didnt think so. and id say in ANY fighting situation the "charging bull" gets punched in the face with a straight right while hes winding up a haymaker.
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Old 08-15-2007, 07:09 PM   #26 (permalink)
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is that kai master running an acting class?!? he was like 10 feet from his students & they were acting like they were hit w/ lightning bolts. how, in sober mind, could that dude put up a 5000 offer to fight a mma fighter & think he'd win?!?

he got what he deserved, straight up. it was almost like he'd NEVER been hit before. i respect the kai's artistry, but he was a fool.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:15 PM   #27 (permalink)
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The good thing about mma is it can be adapted to incorperate the different rules/conditions of a street fight also though.
yeah, instead of throwing devastating knees to the ribs and face, throw 'em to the groin =P
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:58 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Many of the Masters that you see getting their asses handed to them dont usually get punched in the face repeatedly, Im sure if a calm and focused expert wouldnt do that bad, Kung Fu is just another art that does not work well with todays MMA, as todays MMA is no longer about styles, yet adaptation.

Theres tons of other Martial arts that dont work well with Kung Fu, why you gotta hate on Kung Fu. MMA has had 15 years to sort out which art works best, and we found out within the first 3 years that no ONE art works well. You cant really say BJJ alone or Boxing alone works well because theyre are both ultimately missing their opposite sides.

Kung Fu is mostly a wide striking art, sure it would work against average people or other Kung Fu experts that utilize strictly Kung Fu, but in a sport where someone knows 9 different Arts, one descipline isnt going to get you anywhere.
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I notice a lot that a lot of Kung Fu practioners or fans like to whine and complain and make a mountain of excuses when a Kung Fu, Wing Chun or Shaolin fighter loses to any other style.
I dunno if they have any monopoly on the excuses. You get them from just about anyone who adheres to only one style or discipline...
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Old 08-16-2007, 01:33 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Theres one big relevant mistake here a lot of people have made, referring to kung fu as if its one discipline. The term kung fu loosely translates to being "skilled with your hands" and encompasses Hundreds of different styles. Saying something like, 'kung fu uses wide-sweeping techniques' doesnt make sense. Wing-Chun and Wu-Shu are both kung fu, not the same. Praying Mantis and Drunken Boxing are both kung fu, not the same though. Notice the pattern emerging.
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