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Old 09-10-2006, 10:17 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I understand Babalu would have to fight one or two people to get to Ortiz (if Tito had the belt) but why would he have to wait out a rubber match between Tito vs Chuck, if Tito beat Chuck?
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HAHAHAHAHA LOL thats because TITO can take a PUNCH , Babalu/Couture/Horn/Belfort EVERYONE GOT DROPPED By 1 PUNCH or KICK (in babalus case lol) Tito what > toook 21 punches to the dome? the guys got a solid chin thats forsure, Babalu gettting kicked upside the head is waaay wrose then what happened to Tito by the way. Both times Babalu got smacked up upside the head by Chuck he started trying to wrestle the refs n shit.... thats how OUT of it he was, Tito on the other hand, took his mouthpiece out , wasverry pisssed offf, and got up like a man , you do the math

Vitor landed on his butt and his head never hit the matt. He wasnt knocked out like most others.
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Vitor landed on his butt and his head never hit the matt. He wasnt knocked out like most others.

I've seen the Tito/Chuck footage a bunch of times, Tito is a badass, a great fighter and a tough guy but he looked as beat as I have seen a fighter. He took 23 punches directly to his face and head in about 20 seconds and would have been hospitalized had the ref not stopped it.
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Seriously. He was taking a bad ****ing beating there. Perfect stoppage and an awesome victory for Liddell. He'll damn well do it again too.
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:05 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I understand Babalu would have to fight one or two people to get to Ortiz (if Tito had the belt) but why would he have to wait out a rubber match between Tito vs Chuck, if Tito beat Chuck?
I don't know! I would think Chuck would have to wait at least a year before getting another title shot unless Tito ask Dana to give Chuck another rematch in the next pay per view like Sylvia did with Arloveski.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:34 AM   #36 (permalink)
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there is not a dout in my mind tito would tap against sobral. tito doesnt have the take down defense to save his life from babalu. tito just striked with forest and almost lost how he even think hes going to strike with liddell. at this time there isnt many people alive that can strike with liddell that are 205lbs.

as for babalu vs liddell 2 i think babalu took a chance. thinking like liddell who was probaly reminding him self that this guy cant trade with me so i got to watch for the take down. and thinking that babalu came out strikeing switching liddels mind set to striking for thoes few seconds looking for a clinch or that big strike liddell throws for a take down. (knowing highest chance of winning is on ground)

if u ask me i think alot of fighting is in ur mind. and the most vulnerable time is befor the fight because both people are thinking clear they arnt just reacting there setting up what there going to do. but babalu being smart started first making liddell the reactor (risk liddell counter striking awsome)

everything in fighting has a risk there is almost always a counter for what ur apponet is doing. ("for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction" newton 3rd law)

and probaly the most important reason for doing it in the start is he is at full reaction spead and strength...not tired. his chances for a take down decresses as he gets tired. and i think he had to take the risk cause he probaly has 2 or 3 chances at the most with full strength. and i think liddell already had the strength advantage both fully healed.

if that makes any sense. im not am mma fighter just a back yard wrestler
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Tito would loose.Most likely by sub.If not that way it would be a lopsided decision.Babalu would dominate him on the ground if tito got in Babalu's guard he would probably be sub there before his GnP
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there is not a dout in my mind tito would tap against sobral. tito doesnt have the take down defense to save his life from babalu. tito just striked with forest and almost lost how he even think hes going to strike with liddell. at this time there isnt many people alive that can strike with liddell that are 205lbs.

as for babalu vs liddell 2 i think babalu took a chance. thinking like liddell who was probaly reminding him self that this guy cant trade with me so i got to watch for the take down. and thinking that babalu came out strikeing switching liddels mind set to striking for thoes few seconds looking for a clinch or that big strike liddell throws for a take down. (knowing highest chance of winning is on ground)

if u ask me i think alot of fighting is in ur mind. and the most vulnerable time is befor the fight because both people are thinking clear they arnt just reacting there setting up what there going to do. but babalu being smart started first making liddell the reactor (risk liddell counter striking awsome)

everything in fighting has a risk there is almost always a counter for what ur apponet is doing. ("for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction" newton 3rd law)

and probaly the most important reason for doing it in the start is he is at full reaction spead and strength...not tired. his chances for a take down decresses as he gets tired. and i think he had to take the risk cause he probaly has 2 or 3 chances at the most with full strength. and i think liddell already had the strength advantage both fully healed.

if that makes any sense. im not am mma fighter just a back yard wrestler
Dude he has every chance, the fight with forrest he was majorly injured in several places. Read the previous pages of this for more info.
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Old 09-11-2006, 07:18 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Tito can't compete with Sobral on the ground IMO, I think Sobral would submit him, either that or win by decision.
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:22 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I like yellow mans analysis on Babalus strategy that actually makes some sense.
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