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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
View Poll Results: Who would win?
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Josh Barnett
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84.62% |
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Jeff Monson
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09-10-2006, 04:30 PM
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True Grappler
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Josh Barnett v Jeff Monson
This fight, with the score PRIDE:5, UFC:2, is in the heavyweight division. The fighters are the PRIDE Absolute runner up and the UFC's #1 contender for the heavyweight title.
Representing PRIDE:
Josh "The Babyfaced Assassin" Barnett (19-4-0)
Vitals: 6'3" 250lbs (113kg)
Style: Professional Wrestling
Streak: 1 loss (won 4 out of his last 5 fights)
Fact: Barnett won the UFC heavyweight title from Randy Couture at UFC 36, but was disqualified when he tested positive for steroids. Since then he has only lost to one fighter, Mirko "Cro-cop" Filipovic, who has beaten him three times.
Jeff "The Snowman" Monson (22-5-0)
Vitals: 6'0" 215lbs (98kg)
Style: Wrestling
Streak: 16 wins (won 17 of his last 20 fights)
Fact: Jeff Monson has not been submitted in his last 22 fights.
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09-10-2006, 04:31 PM
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Barnett by submission.
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09-10-2006, 04:36 PM
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Barnett by anyway he wants..Monson is a joke, and is gonna get blasted by Sylvia..Barnett is on another level than Monson..At this time next year we will all be laughing at the fact Monson got a title shot 
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09-10-2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jdun11
Barnett by anyway he wants..Monson is a joke, and is gonna get blasted by Sylvia..Barnett is on another level than Monson..At this time next year we will all be laughing at the fact Monson got a title shot 
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See, I wouldn't say that. Monson lasted to a decision with Chuck. He has smashed pretty much everybody he's faced up until now. I don't think that Sylvia will win, because his grappling skills look terrible.
Still Barnett by any way he wants sounds right.
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09-10-2006, 04:57 PM
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Barnet by TKO, ref stoppage from strikes. It would make sense for Barnett to negate the wrestling and mat skills of Monson. Barnett has a reach advantage and is a skilled and aggresive striker and I think he would go in that direction before getting into a BBJ style mat war with Monson.
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09-10-2006, 05:02 PM
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Barnett is to big for Monson, Monson is very strong and a great submission fighter but Barnett is also. Barnett is also a great standup fighter as Monson but we saw what happened when Monson fought Cruz. Barnett by tko
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09-10-2006, 05:20 PM
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Megaweight
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ironman, who has monson beat?? noone! i dont know why u think he stands a shot agianst sylvia...i dunno maybe im underestimating monson, but against barnett i feel hes toast wherever the fight goes, ground , standing, ..doesnt really matter
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09-10-2006, 05:28 PM
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It's true he hasn't beaten anyone impressive, but his wins over no names have been impressive. Of the 8 of his last 10 fights I've seen, only his decision with Devin Cole and Marcio Cruz weren't complete dominations. I don't think Sylvia has ever fought a wrestler that's on the level of Jeff Monson.
The two times in Sylvia's carreer that he's ended up on the mat were against Andrei Arlovski and Frank Mir, both times he was submitted in the first minute of the fight. He lost to Andrei in 47 seconds and Mir in 50, those are the only two guys who have really gotten him on the ground. Granted, they're both good submission fighters, but Monson's takedowns and submissions are at least as good as Mir's.
It's not so much that Monson is a great fighter, it's more that Sylvia has no real ground game.
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09-10-2006, 05:54 PM
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I voted for Barnett.
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09-10-2006, 05:55 PM
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Ahaha, Monson wouldn't stand a chance against some one more strong, better grappler, all around fighter than him. Not even a round.
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