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"Mirko has no clue of the kind of trouble he has gotten himself into"

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#1 · (Edited)
Wanderlei Silva has made no execuses for his losss and has simply stated he wants to fight Mirko one more time

Cro Cop's redemption

"All about the night when Mirko Filipovic finally conquered his first major belt – after a KO over Wanderlei Siva and a crushing victory over Josh Barnett
The afternoon of September 10th in Japan began with two knee strikes, a mount and the choke from the back applied by Cyborg on Japanese bixer Nishijima. Or, at least, that’s how it started on the ring of Saitama Super Arena. A beginning just like the sushi Murilo Bustamante was eating back in Brazil when he said: “I’m going to root like crazy for Wanderlei Silva…” Let’s allow the reader to reflect for a second. “…In the first fight,” Minotauro’s training mate adds with an ironic tone of voice. He considers the Chute Boxe star to be a most suitable – or a less tricky - opponent for Nogueira.

Aloof to Bustamante’s interests, Wanderlei is jumping up and down in his corner, the mouth protector shinning white while Cro Cop is walking the plank. There’s clapping in Brazil and silence in Japan. The fight begins and Wand charges forward. This time, Cro Cop does not walk backwards. There’s no study. Mirko is more effective both in the dodging and the hitting. So much that Wand shoots the legs and puts Filipovic in his guard. After a few moments when the fight loses its rhythm, the fighters are back on their feet. Silva insists in going for it. Then, a right hand blow lands on his face and knocks him down. Quickly, Cro Cop enters Silva’s guard and punches repeatedly his foe’s nose and right eye – both areas already hurt. Blood gushes out and the fight is interrupted.

Body language is 60% of communication, according to Hitch, the character played by Will Smith in the movie with the same name. Wand’s thumb and index finger close together and the expression on his face give away what’s going on. “Just a bit more,” the subtitles would read if there were any. The referee nods his head. Captions: “It is over.” The gesture discussion goes on for a moment and Wand’s plead prevails: the fight continues. There are applauses in Brazil and agitation in Japan – where fans love the warrior spirit.

Cro Cop insists for the fight to resume on the ground.


It is a wise decision that hinders Silva from his last chance of recovery. From the guard, Wand looks like a tamed beast. There is not much he could do to express his anger. So the Chute Boxe star tries a series of short punches that have no effect at all on Cro Cop. The Croatian knows that once the fight returns to the stand up position, Wand would be a lot calmer.

Even so, it’s best not to risk it. Once both are up again, Cro Cop returns to his usual counter-strike game. He kicks Wand’s ribs. Wand keeps going forward. Mirko hits the ribs again. Wand seems not to be affected by it but he lowers his guard a bit. The next kick hits Wand’s head. It looks like a missile that was fired accurately and leaves a mark. A cut the size of a fist on the right side of Wand’s head. The Brazilian laid down unconscious. He was saved by the referee that prevented Cro Cop from continuing his attack. That was the shocking end of Wand’s adventure among the heavyweights.

“Mirko fought very well,” admitted later Rudimar Fedrigo, leader of the Chute Boxe Team. “I’m very upset. I guess no one expected such an outcome,” he continues. You couldn’t help noticing the prostration of the “big master” – mentor and kind of second father to Wanderlei. “I don’t like to see Wand hurt like that. His defeat affects all the team,” he confesses. “Of course he’s sad but he already told me that he’s going to be back and that he wants to face Mirko again.” Somebody close by comments that Mirko has no clue of the kind of trouble he has gotten himself into. “There’s no doubt about it,” says Fedrigo, looking into the future


SOURCE: Cro Cop's redemption
 
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#27 ·
Shocked said:
how can he have his number? he's only beaten him once , unlike ken and tito
Lord knows, Punishment 101 likes Wanderlei a lot and is mad the fact Crocop KTFO of Wanderlei. Crocop will be Fedors toughest opponent yet in a rematch and I wouldn't be suprised if he defeated Fedor. I would like to see Crocop defeated Fedor, it would be one of the greatest moments in MMA since everyone thinks Fedor is unstoppable and the fact he hasn't technically lost yet.
 
#28 ·
I agree with Kameleon on a lot, like: I would love to see Wanderlei take another beating from Mirko. I would also like to see Cro Cop fight Nog again.
Mirko Cro Cop isn't HUGE, don't give me that BS, stating Wandy should stay with the LHW's. To me Cro Cop could just as easily be a LHW, same with Fedor.
 
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#29 ·
Upnsmoke3 said:
CC by KO again.He has Wandy's number.Its just not a good match up for him. Dont get me wrong Wandy is a outstanding fighter but sometimes in sports theres always that one team,one guy that has your number.
Like:
Tito has Kens
Yankees have the Red Sox(im a red sox fan)
Michael Jordan had the whole western conference number at one time
Chuck has Babalu's
Tim has AA
Hughes has Triggs
I think i have made my point.

This post is so true...but then inaccurate at the same time. What you say about someone having someone else's number is TRUE. But almost all of the examples you quoted are WRONG.

Tito does not have Kens number. Tito is much better than Ken. Ken is a has been. How does that mean Tito has Ken's number? Everyone has Ken's number.

Yankees red sox...no idea

Michael Jordan...perhaps..

Chuck and Babalu - YES and no... I still think Chuck is a better fighter overall. But I think were chuck slightly worse; ur statement would be true. Chuck is the nightmare for babalu...ridiculous striking and uncanny take down defense. Chuck could be a worse fighter and still never lose to Babalu. (I mean...Babalu could be the best fighter in that class, but always lose to Liddel. Currently that is not the case because Lidell is the best fighter in that class, thus ruining the example).

Tim has AA - Negatory. Tim has AA by nothing short of luck. He capitalized in match 2 and AA broke his leg in match 3. They need to go at it again and if AA loses when sylvia hasn't improved...I'll still think it was badluck that AA's mental state was ruined by his poor run of luck.

Hughes has triggs - Again wrong. Hughes is just a better fighter than Trigg. Put trigg up against GSP (got rocked), put him up against Penn and he's going down. Trigg just isn't as good as hughes. This example is worse than Chuck vs Babalu because were hughes a worse fighter; he would lose to trigg. It is not a mismatch that favors hughes.


I never count Wand out; but I think CC could very well ruin Silva's career if he hasnt' already done that. Shogun is the one who should avenge chute box's loss.
 
#33 ·
theboz19 said:
I would love to see Wandy take another beating. But I want Chuck to get to do it this time. Wandy is just a physically fit animal with no real skill. His fights are extremely entertaining though. I loved the begging for just a little more time in the corner. The doctors do the eye test as more of a test of will. If the fighter doesn't want to continue he can just stop tracking the finger and blame the doctor for calling the fight. He needs to stay at Light Heavyweight. The big guys can absorb most of his flailing away. He would be really dangerous if he allowed a Scottish boxing coach to show him how to throw those 13 punch combinations.
speaking of people who are just fit with no skill cough BOB SAPP cough
 
#34 ·
Thats obvious. Since he is huge he assumes he could dominate I bet, got a wake up call when he got knocked out by Mirko.


Does anyone know the name of that monster of a human being that Fedor fought, the guy looked like he was at least 7 feet tall
 
#35 ·
Fedor fought Semmy Schilt in Pride 21. It was four events later when he took Nog for the title.
 
#36 ·
Crokid your looking for Zuluzinho.

Fedor vs Zulu at Shockwava 2005 - Google Video

Crocop vs Wanderlei winner would probably be CroCop. Though this is the kind of match where one punch can make a difference, like against randleman.
Wanderlei should start to fight more intelligently instead of just going for it. It worked for most of his opponents but against someone like CroCop, he looks right through Wanderlei the way he fights now. He has always been the agressor, and I think he should start working hard on counter attacking if he wants to beet CroCop.
 
#37 ·
You can't just tell Wand to start figting "more intelligently"...The wild hooks is just who he is, and he's not gonna change his style because Mirko whooped him. His "unorthodox" style has worked for him for quite some time now, and it will continue to work unless Mirko goes down to MW.
 
#38 ·
QUOTE...The only thing that Wanderlai has a problem with is being so anxious and throwing punches when he shouldnt be..he needed to stay calm and not force the pace like the he did the first fight. And Wand imo opinion was robbed the first fight with Cro cop, so why can't a new fight and I would hope an improved and strategized Wanderlai win a fight with Cro Cop. Anything is possible.

i dissagree with u when u said the 1st fight between CC and wandy shudve gone to wandy!!!did u see his ribs??they were blue and crocop was cleary pissed when they called it a draw!!!he knew he won!!!but anyways that doesnt matter coz 2nd time he hospitalised him!!!
true wandy is a true fighter with great spirit and he wud take on liddell and ortiz but CC is jus too focused and training too hard!!!coz he wants the heavy weight title...ooooh soooo bad
 
#42 ·
If Pride wants their MW champion not to get brain damaged, I'd keep him down at 205. It's crazy they want to throw him in against guys like Fedor, Crocop, or Mark Hunt. While I applaud Wand's fighting spirit for wanting to fight anyone, I don't think it's his best career move.

About Arlovski, after seeing his last fight against Silvia, I could care less about seeing Arlovski in Pride. He didn't show any heart or desire IMO.

About Tito having Ken's number, the only number he has is Ken's age. I'd take Ken in his prime over Tito in his prime any day.
 
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