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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-19-2006, 12:03 AM Thread Starter
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Grappler's can't get it done

With the recent victory of Chuck Liddell over Ronato Sobral, I have to state once again the grappler's just don't have what it takes anymore. Striking's on top right now, but it will switch again in the future

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Grappler's just can't get it done

oops, I keep posting on the wrong board. Sorry for repeating, but I just gotta say again that Grappler's just can't get it done anymore. Strikers are on top baby.

1. Rich Franklin
2. Tim Sylvia
3. Chuck Liddell

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1. Matt Hughes

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its just that chucks take down defence is just to damn good.

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the welterweights and lw are all grapplers..i still say its even.tito, babalu and monson are all grapplers..but it doesnt matter cuz if ur not well rounded ur gonna lose..plain and simple




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Fedor, gsp, hughes, a.a (he will beat tim again), fedor, big nog, arona, rua. What about all these guys. It's even i'd say. Every striker you name i can name a grappler.
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Fedor, gsp, hughes, a.a (he will beat tim again), fedor, big nog, arona, rua. What about all these guys. It's even i'd say. Every striker you name i can name a grappler.
i dunno if id claasify shogun as a grappler..he has sick ground skills but i look at him as a striker first grappler second




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Yeah he is. but he was a bj guy who worked standing. people forget wand has amazing bj 2. And a lot of those fight's were strikes firom a mount not many one punch chuck style.
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yes grappeling is being less and less effective. but to have the best understanding of takedowns you got to have practice doing the takedowns as well as blocking them. But both are needed to be able to have the best defense.

chuck liddell has a wrestleing background so he knows how to do good takedowns which helps him defend because he knows what the other guys thinking.

im sure silva and franklin also have jiu jitsu and wrestling backgrounds.

it was bound to happen after the world was shocked by jiu jitus and started learning about it and analyzing its weakness *lots of people probaly hated how average royce dominated*

just because they dont got a belt from a gracie *or anyone* doesnt mean they dont practice it.

being well rounded is the key to being a champion. there is always a chance that it will go to the ground and when it does thoes grappeling skills will come in handy even if your just going to ground and pound.
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I think less and less MMA fighters are training in Judo and that is hurting their ground game. If you can't get them to the ground, then you have no game. Judo praciticioners can do some amazing things really quick and when a fighter has no idea how they got to the ground (which is often the case in a Judo throw or take down because its so fast) then he is in a world of trouble and better scramble a defense quick. I even hear Joe Rogan get really excited when he witnesses some Judo throws in action.
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Grappling, and the ground game in general, are being passed by by the UFC. the UFC is all about strikes nowadays, standing mostly, but also on the ground. every time a fight goes to the ground, the fighters just vie for a position to toss elbows at each other from. i think this is proof that Dana has sold the soul of MMA to either suck in boxing fans, or get other people interested withouth having more ignorant americans get confused by submission fights!!!

look at PRIDE, there's always a good match of strikes and sub wins, but in the UFC... subs are going the way of the dodo!
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