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post #21 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Paw
Haha a 1 in 13 million chance in winning the lottery. What I was saying you may not be aiming to hit them, you may just be wanting to hit them as hard as you can in the head but people still hit them and knock their opponent out with out any knowledge of pressurepoint attacks.
If you notice, the operative words of my argument were "being able to use PP attacks with reliable results in an actual fight; especially against someone who is trained." Even then, I can safely bet due to my rudimentary knowledge of human physiology, that even if a man were to have the majority his facial nerves paralyzed he would still get knocked out from being hit in the head hard enough. There is still the ability to shock the brain inside of skull violently enough to have it mash into one side of their cranium (just like any concussion) and that will knock someone out regardless of the operative nerves just under the 2nd layer of their skin.

You also have to realize that a lot of PP theory and technique falls under the extremely old-school philosophy of training striking arts. This was developed either under 1 or 2-step katas or drills where a set willing partner would attack, and they practitioner would counter and finish the technique with no resistance being given at all. Neither was the technique ever trained to be fully completed (an ear mark of many traditional Martial Arts) because of fear of maiming or killing their training partner. Because of that, the person training in such arts would be completely at a handicap when actually facing a trained and experienced fighter. It's the same reason why many point-tournament competitors who enjoy large amounts of success are abysmal at full-contact or freestyle competitions. The reason being is that all fights continue chaotically past every initial set of techniques, unless they are lucky or good enough to KO their opponent 100% in each and every fight; which we all know is impossible anyways.
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post #22 of 23 (permalink) Old 06-06-2006, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DAT
This from the UFC rules on their site. I don't see pressure points or anything similar described as a no-no. #12 comes the closest.

Fouls: [Top]
1. Butting with the head.
2. Eye gouging of any kind.
3. Biting.
4. Hair pulling.
5. Fish hooking.
6. Groin attacks of any kind.
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent.
8. Small joint manipulation.
9. Striking to the spine or the back of the head.
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow.
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea.
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh.
13. Grabbing the clavicle.
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent.
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent.
16. Stomping a grounded opponent.
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel.
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck.
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area.
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent.
21. Spitting at an opponent.
22. Engaging in an unsportsmanlike conduct that causes an injury to an opponent.
23. Holding the ropes or the fence.
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area.
25. Attacking an opponent on or during the break.
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee.
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of unarmed combat.
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee.
29. Timidity, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury.
30. Interference by the corner.
31. Throwing in the towel during competition.
Well damn, youre right. I guess I just misread the misread the 8th rule, small joint manipulation. Which was specifically designed to keep people from targeting fingers and such.

My bad.

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