My point was that the filming of the ring girls was extremely distasteful. Pardon PanKrato for using the term "worthless hoes", but that is exactly what they were portrayed as through the filming. They weren't wearing much less than any ring girl, if any less, but the camera man is filming them like some voyeur in a mall. Notice PanKrato says, "people with no respect for girls need to get out more." That tells me he was just explaining that the camera men have no respect for the ring girls. Am I wrong?
Good movie by the way. However, nobody here has a problem with a beautiful woman on display. That's the whole point of the ring girl. But while they do their walk around the ring just like every other ring girl, the KOTC cameras are exploiting them. So, it is not the girls we think are classless, it is those who are filming them.
The Probability and Statistics courses that I have taken have stressed the fact that all possibilities have to be taken into consideration before any kind of a valid conclusion can be reached logically.
That said, I have to cop to the fact that I have not seen KOTC,I don't exactly know what you are talking about,and the possibility does exist that if I saw it,maybe I would agree with you.
Maybe I would find it even more objectionable than you do!
But I doubt it.What I find is that some of the discussion here mirrors what was said in Loudon Wainwright's famous essay on the miniskirt,written back when the mini-skirt was first introduced, around 1965 or 1966.As Loudon Wainright recalls, he was raised to believe that,in his words,"if a lady is about to have difficulty with her skirt," he's talking about,say,the wind or something blowing her skirt up like the famous subway grate scene in the Marilyn Monroe movie "Seven Year Itch," well, a gentleman is supposed to avert his eyes.But what Loudon Wainright discovered is that the mini-skirt introduced an entirely new paradigm:a gentleman is not supposed to look away.
A gentleman is supposed to gaze to his heart's content,or at the very least, an appreciative glance is de riguer.
I don't know what the girls you are talking about are wearing: I assume that they are wearing minis,which are so de rigeur at this point that minis have become boring to me, or hot pants/shorts made out of spandex,or tank tops or halter tops made out of some kind of flimsy material.But I will assume for the purposes of discussion that they've got on minis.
If you can see up her dress:Big deal.
It was designed for exactly that purpose!
If you can see the nipples of her breasts through the material of her skimpy top:Big deal!
It was designed for that purpose.
What I personally object to is when they cut the camera away from the girl so you won't see her ass, or they keep the camera on the girl from the shoulders up.
I hate that crap, and I feel that it is unnatural.
I will also stick by my guns in saying that the word "ho,"used for any reason or in any context, simply has no place in the vocabulary of a gentleman.I would say in passing what was said to the staff of the college radio station about vulgarity,profanity,and dirty words on the air,namely,you should possess a sufficiently large vocabulary that enables you to express yourself without using those kinds of words.
Enough about that.
I am really more interested in hearing more about what you think about the movie "Point Blank."
Why did you think that it was a good movie?
I believe that it is out now in VHS or DVD,although I have not seen the uncut version.I first saw it as a teen, when there was that hub-bub that I mentioned in the above post about what was aired and what wasn't.I liked it then,especially for how they set up the scene for Lee Marvin's encounter with the three thugs in the alley,the part where there was a singer spoofing the Godfather of Soul James Brown by screaming like James Brown,and handing the microphone to people in the audience so they could scream,too.Then the part came when Lee Marvin got the best of the last thug and knocked him through the wall and his body crashed onto the stage and that girl started screaming and everybody thought that it was part of the act!
But now I think of that movie as like one of the ultimate Hollywood tough guy movies,like "Showdown in Little Tokyo" where Dolph Lungren takes on those three hoods without even putting down his cup of tea!
That blew me away!
Like Lee Marvin's encounter with the thugs:that's Hollywood tough guy stuff.Now as an adult, I know that nobody could take the kind of shot that Lee Marvin took that laid him out face down on his stomach in the alleyway,nobody could take a shot like that and then fight back like he did!
If that shot didn't knock him out,not to mention getting hit in the head like that could have killed him outright, at the very least he would have been so stunned or senseless,there is no way he could have fought back.
But yeah, for wild, Hollywood tough guy stuff,"Point Blank" makes it.
But I would like to hear your thoughts on it,specifically.