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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-16-2007, 08:46 PM
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I also never really got the Franca vs Sherk hate. I mean, I enjoyed the fight a lot, because it was technical. People kept saying that Sherk was laying and praying, but I saw none of that. It just seems like some people have attention spans the size of peas. They'd rather watch a KO, but honestly, I'd rather watch a technical bout. I can't stand guys like Doug Marshall, simply because there's really not much technique displayed. I have to go through the numerous KOTC brawls just to get to the technical stuff. I take it as a sport, a sport with legit fighters fighting with technique. Some find Machida to be boring, but I love the guy. He's highly technical, and that's what I like.

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I also never really got the Franca vs Sherk hate. I mean, I enjoyed the fight a lot, because it was technical. People kept saying that Sherk was laying and praying, but I saw none of that. It just seems like some people have attention spans the size of peas. They'd rather watch a KO, but honestly, I'd rather watch a technical bout. I can't stand guys like Doug Marshall, simply because there's really not much technique displayed. I have to go through the numerous KOTC brawls just to get to the technical stuff. I take it as a sport, a sport with legit fighters fighting with technique. Some find Machida to be boring, but I love the guy. He's highly technical, and that's what I like.
I agree with you on that Sherk fight there is a difference between laying and praying and being cautious against someone whose really good at submissions. He played it smart and watched everything he did closely.
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Sean Sherk dominated Franca on the ground, it was definitely not lay n pray. The only negative thing in that fight was the lack of GnP from Sherk, but he was always passing Franca's guard and maintaining good position.




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Yeah, I really liked the Sherk fight, and thought it was a good performance by both guys. Hermes landed some perfect knees, and Sean fought as good a ground fight as you can, and it was against a BJJ black belt. I've always liked the way Sherk works on the ground though. His fight at Bushido 2 was 15 minutes of complete and utter technical domination and was just beautiful to watch.
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I also dug Sherk's fight against Ueyama. Hell, even Bas dug it, as he was marking out for Sherk like crazy. Really good performance from Sherk, and I'm shocked that they didn't bring him back.

Oh yeah, I'm also not getting the Rashad hate. I didn't find the Bisping fight to be that bad actually. In fact, I enjoyed it on the re-watch, and thought Rashad showed some solid stand-up. Rashad hasn't lay & prayed in a long while, so I also don't get why people say that's all he does.

I loved the Kharitonov vs Nogueira fight because it was highly technical and both men showed great technique on the ground and standing up. They didn't rush into things, because doing so would be stupid and could result in a loss. I really dig that, and technical fights get more repeated viewings than brawls do.

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Option A, of course. The occasional brawl is very fun/funny. But the whole point of MMA is testing your skill against another fighter. I love the technical aspects of the sport.

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I will be honest with myself and say right out Option B. I am sure that in time I will learn to appreciate a good technical fight but as it stands now I really don't know enough about the technical aspect of MMA (have never learned much BJJ).

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I will be honest with myself and say right out Option B. I am sure that in time I will learn to appreciate a good technical fight but as it stands now I really don't know enough about the technical aspect of MMA (have never learned much BJJ).
Nothing wrong with liking a good slugfest. I'm actually surprised more people haven't chosen that option. I bet if this same thread was posted in the UFC Forum it would be different. A lot of people don't even seem to make it down to the General Forum.

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Oh yeah, I'm also not getting the Rashad hate.
I started to turn the corner on Rashad after the Lambert fight. The Salmon fight did nothing for me because it was Sean Salmon. Ever since then, he seems fixated on trying to drive guys through the cage with double-legs. He has decent stand up, and he's explosive. I don't see why he struggles so much to get a guy like Bisping, who we know doesn't have the greatest TDD, down. I'd really like to see him mix it up in his next fight, and not gas himself by going after a double-leg against the cage for 4 minutes at a time. Switch to a single or a body lock or something dude.

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I loved the Kharitonov vs Nogueira fight because it was highly technical and both men showed great technique on the ground and standing up. They didn't rush into things, because doing so would be stupid and could result in a loss.
Yeah, I posted this in the great fights nobody talks about thread because it is just that. I never really realized it either until going back and watching it a couple days ago. It takes me quite a while to go through all my events, so I'm sure I'll be re-watching some old stuff in like August and want to add it to that thread.

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For me, choice A. I think thats a true mixed martial arts match. but getting my fix of frye vs takayama or shamrock vs fujita is always welcome.

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I like both A and B. I love highly skilled technical matches that keep you on the edge of your seat, wincing at submission attempts while these guys roll around like monkeys. However, I also love watching a good match between two guys who want to brawl it out. Even if they lack skill and proper conditioning, I like to see two exhausted fighters swinging and taking hard punches but still refuse to drop, such as with JRoc and War. That was an awesome fight, even if they aren't the best fighters. Then there's Huerta and Guida, who are highly skilled and technical. I figure this another aspect of MMA that makes it such a beautiful thing.

BUT... the only thing I hate to see is a clear-cut fluke (i.e. spinning backfist ala Shonie Carter.)
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