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Old 12-19-2007, 12:35 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I dont think Ken is quite as washed up as you guys are making it seem. But I still think he losses this fight. Frank is too explosive and will probably finish Ken off in the second round. I dont see this fight hitting the mat AT ALL.
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Old 12-19-2007, 12:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't think he can. Prime Ken had pretty bad striking, and if the fight went to the ground, then Frank would either sub him or stand back up. Frank Shamrock is just a better MMA fighter. Always has been, always will be.
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:25 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't think he can. Prime Ken had pretty bad striking, and if the fight went to the ground, then Frank would either sub him or stand back up. Frank Shamrock is just a better MMA fighter. Always has been, always will be.
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even though i like both shammys , frankie will always b my top favorite
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Old 12-19-2007, 07:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I think this would be the "nail in the coffin" for Ken's career. I don't know that Frank was always better than Ken, but ever since he hooked up with Maurice Smith... he has been. I bet it'd feel pretty good to Frank to get to pay Ken back for the beating he received when he was pretty much "jumped in" to the Lions Den.
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:52 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Why did they have a falling out in the first place, or did they never get along at all?
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:58 PM   #37 (permalink)
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They had a fallout because Ken didn't like the way Frank was running the Den while he was out doing pro-wrestling. Frank wanted to be his own man, and they really haven't spoken to each other since. You can even hear Frank trying to avoid talking about the Lions Den during the Newton vs Henderson fight at UFC 17.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:45 PM   #38 (permalink)
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^^ I've actually heard they never got along well. There is talk the only reason Ken trained Frank is because Bob Shamrock asked him to. Ken never thought Frank wasn't as good as Frank thought he was and Frank being Frank wanted to prove him wrong and of course showed that he is as good as he thinks.
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Old 12-20-2007, 11:18 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I think it's funny that Ken criticizes Frank for the nickname "the legend" when ken has the worlds longest nickname with "the worlds most dangerous man". neither are as bad as twinkle toes.
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Old 12-20-2007, 12:12 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I hope Ken pulls it out with a heel hook!
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