jdun11

Based on what? He was afraid to strike with Sokky, why would he want trade with Chuck?? If he stood and traded with Chuck he would eventually get knocked out. Thats what would have happened against Sokky and he knew it so he took him down. He wouldnt be able to take Chuck down.

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GMW

He sure didn't look afraid to strike with sokky, he looked very comfortable actually. So I don't see a reason to assume he'd get KO'd by Liddell since sokky didn't even come close.
He probably wouldn't be able to take Liddell down, but to be fair, isn't Sokky incredibly skilled with Judo and Machida was able to take him down?

Asian Sensation

i remeber lyoto rocking soko with a huge punch before finishing him on the ground

and i never saw kids last fight could someone please post the fight or tell me in detail what happened to make you believe that kid is inferior to faber

btw jdun im one of the few on this forum that believe as well as you do that filho is a bad match up for silva

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TheNegation

Faber got himself in a world of trouble a couple times in that fight. Kid sat on Curran and punched him in the face for the entire match, made him look like nothing. Why is everyone so obsessed with fights finishing......

Faber is too strong for Kid? Which one of these guys has spent most of their career mauling people froma higher weight class than them? Oh yeah that'd be kid.


Machida got taken down by Sokky in the first, and in the 2nd took him down by punching him in the face and kicking his leg out from unde him. What match did you see where Machida wouldn't trade with Sokky? Sokky was the one trying to take Machida down.

Also, believe if you want that Machida can't take Liddell down, but liddell has never faced anyone like Machida before. He is npt gonna shoot in with a double or single. Look at the leg sweep takedowns he executed on Nakamura and Sokky. Chuck has never dealt with someone who takes people down like that.

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jdun11

Mauling guys from another weight class?? Kid has like 2 solid wins in his career. Honestly I used to think the talent of all the fighters that fight out in Japan(Pride,K-1, Shooto ect) were so much better than what we had to offer over in the UFC and WEC. But Im no longer a believer in that. I think we tend to underrate the guys we see most often and overrate foreign organization fighters.

Im not saying Chuck would totally outclass Machida standing. I just think if Machida traded with Chuck all 3 rounds he would eventually get caught with something. Chuck Liddell is no Sam Hogar.

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TheNegation

Yes, mauling guys from another weight class. He fought most of the time at 155, he doesn't even walk around at that weight.

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jdun11

Ya he was mauling tomato cans. Only solid wins are Genki and Curran.

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Fedor>all

That's the thing, Machida doesn't trade. He strikes and evades, strikes and evades. When has he been caught flush? When has he been busted open? He's just as elusive and quick as Anderson Silva. Chuck has a problem with strikers that are technically more proficient than him.

Unorthodox strikers like Chuck and Rich Franklin tend to get absolutely raped standing against more technical strikers such as Rampage and Anderson Silva.

Lyoto Machida is essentially the LHW version of Anderson Silva, his striking is crisp and he hardly ever takes damage, and really, he's a terrible match for Chuck. Hell, he's a bad match for anyone, anywhere (whether on the ground or standing) in the division.

As for Yamimoto/Faber, that's a fight that needs to happen. I think Faber has a better chance than most think, but I'd honestly need to watch more of their fights to really come to a conclusive prediction.

Could someone please suggest me both fighters' best scraps?

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Lol, and Faber beat cans in his own weight class, clearly better. In fact, the only top competition he fought, he got his ass kicked. I do believe the only time Yamamoto ever got his ass kicked was facing Mike Freaking Zambidis in a kickboxing match.

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jdun11

Ok ok, you guys might have won me over a lil bit on the Chuck/Lyoto fight. Im not saying Machida would win but you guys made some good points and made me think. Chuck has never really faught a technical striker though. I consider Overeem to be the best and most technical striker in LHW division and Chuck KO'd him. He has a totally different style than Lyoto but still thats an impressive win for Chuck. Its one that often gets overlooked.

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1. Fedor Emelianenko (Favorite Athlete of all-time)
2. Shogun Rua
3. BJ Penn
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Urijah Faber
6. Tito Ortiz