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01-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Lol, and Faber beat cans in his own weight class, clearly better. In fact, the only top competition he fought, he got his ass kicked. I do believe the only time Yamamoto ever got his ass kicked was facing Mike Freaking Zambidis in a kickboxing match.
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I think you need to watch that fight cuz Tyson did not kick Faber's ass. It was actually a very competitve fight. Tyson would pound Kid too, so whats your point??
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01-01-2008, 06:59 PM
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Ok ok, you guys might have won me over a lil bit on the Chuck/Lyoto fight. Im not saying Machida would win but you guys made some good points and made me think. Chuck has never really faught a technical striker though. I consider Overeem to be the best and most technical striker in LHW division and Chuck KO'd him. He has a totally different style than Lyoto but still thats an impressive win for Chuck. Its one that often gets overlooked.
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I thought Overeem was winning the stand-up until he completely forgot the technical aspect of his striking and started throwing wildly, falling into Chuck's gameplan. I'd say Chuck has fought a technical striker in Rampage. Rampage's boxing is impeccable, I'd definitely call it technical.
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01-01-2008, 07:03 PM
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I thought Overeem was winning the stand-up until he completely forgot the technical aspect of his striking and started throwing wildly, falling into Chuck's gameplan. I'd say Chuck has fought a technical striker in Rampage. Rampage's boxing is impeccable, I'd definitely call it technical.
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Ehh, Rampage is more of a brawler. He has nice hands but I dont think he is very technical.
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01-01-2008, 07:07 PM
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Look at the list of guys Chuck has either outstruck or knocked out.
Mezger
Silva- alll time great
Overeem-world class striker
Ortiz
Couture
Babablu
Randleman
Horn
Machida
Penn
Bonnar
Hogar
Franklin
Yea Id say Machida has a much better resume pfff
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Not to mention Penn and Franklin are not LHW's lol
Personally, I think Kid would beat Faber, but it doesn't matter because this fight will NEVER happen. Kid probably will never fight for Zuffa and Zuffa will never let Faber go to Heros/anywhere else.
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01-01-2008, 07:08 PM
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Ehh, Rampage is more of a brawler. He has nice hands but I dont think he is very technical.
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I don't know if I'd call him a brawler, I'd reserve that title for the likes of Tank Abbott, Cabbage, and Kimbo Slice.
Rampage is great at cutting off the octagon, he's great at covering up, he's great at countering, and he just uses angles really well. Rampage completely avoided getting into wild exchanges and picked his shots perfectly, as seen in the fact Chuck went for the left straight to the body and Rampage followed it up with the perfect response.
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01-01-2008, 07:09 PM
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Ehh, Rampage is more of a brawler. He has nice hands but I dont think he is very technical.
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Jackson has great Boxing, he fought Abidi twice in K1 and beat his ass both times.
I can't argue about this with you anymore, both Faber and Kid fought cans yes, but Kid fought bigger cans and has some wins which are more impressive than Fabers. PLus, I just think he is by far a better fighter. Eventually, this fight will probably happen, and I predict you will eat your words.
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01-01-2008, 07:17 PM
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01-01-2008, 07:21 PM
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Jackson has great Boxing, he fought Abidi twice in K1 and beat his ass both times.
I can't argue about this with you anymore, both Faber and Kid fought cans yes, but Kid fought bigger cans and has some wins which are more impressive than Fabers. PLus, I just think he is by far a better fighter. Eventually, this fight will probably happen, and I predict you will eat your words.
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Im not saying Rampage isnt a good striker. He is a very good striker. But I just dont think of him as being a technician. I put him more along the line of Lawler, Wandy, Baroni, Liddell type of striker. I consider technical strikers to be guys like Anderson, Machida, Stout, Crocop.
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01-01-2008, 07:33 PM
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Im not saying Rampage isnt a good striker. He is a very good striker. But I just dont think of him as being a technician. I put him more along the line of Lawler, Wandy, Baroni, Liddell type of striker. I consider technical strikers to be guys like Anderson, Machida, Stout, Crocop.
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The point is though, is that he is a more technical boxer than Chuck Liddell.
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01-01-2008, 07:34 PM
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He wasn't technical before he moved camps. Now he has an awesome boxing coach and his boxing in the ufc has been brilliant.
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Just watched Kid 's fight, Im sorry but Faber would KILL him!
