WouldLuv2FightU

All I gotta say is I completely disagree with the myth that Overeem was tooling or even so much as beating Chuck at any point during that fight.

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GMW

On the scorecards at least he was winning, he was landing more shots, doing more damage, etc. How could you say he wasn't winning?

jdun11

He was winning very early on until Chuck got him in the North/South position than they stood up and Chuck KO's him. I havent seen this fight in awhile but I think it goes sumthing like that.

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1. Fedor Emelianenko (Favorite Athlete of all-time)
2. Shogun Rua
3. BJ Penn
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Urijah Faber
6. Tito Ortiz

WouldLuv2FightU

Chuck dodged like 90% of Overeem's strikes in that fight, Chuck worked him on their feet and landed more solid blows, then worked him on the ground and kneed the shit out of him, then proceeded to KTFO him. I don't see how Overeem was winning more than 5 seconds of that fight. He threw a lot, but nothing ever landed.

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GMW

Chuck landed some shots and avoided a lot but Overeem was pushing the pace and being very aggressive, and was definitely landing more shots in the stand up. Once it got to the ground it was all Chuck.

jdun11

I think Chuck gets cut on the top of his head from one of those nasty Overeem knees.

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My Top 6 Favorite Fighters:

1. Fedor Emelianenko (Favorite Athlete of all-time)
2. Shogun Rua
3. BJ Penn
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Urijah Faber
6. Tito Ortiz

bbjd7

Chuck took control of that fight when it hit the ground. He did some real damage and Overeem being the dumb shit he is started swinging for the fences. Before it hit the ground Overeem was winning that fight standing IMO.

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bbjd7

As far as Kid vs Faber goes neither has fought top fighter at 145 but it's not a very deep divison. I think Kid would win just due to being more well rounded and using the fact Faber finished Curran and Kid didn't makes no damn sense since Curran got beat far worse by Kid than Faber.

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Thumper75

On the whole who has better wrestling thing. i can tell you from experience that there are some years where a weight class in a specific state(nation, whatever) aren't nearly as deep talent wise as other years. I know of several very good wrestlers that never made it out of regionals after placing in state the years prior. I have also seen hacks take state, get scholarships, you name it. So take the whole credentials thing with a grain o' salt eh.

You know what they call a Dr. with a 2.0 GPA don't ya?

Doctor....

wukkadb

We settled this a long time ago, and I'm pretty sure we came to the conclusion that Chuck wasn't getting tooled by Overeem(like I claimed), but nor was Chuck tooling Overeem(what you claimed). That fight was pretty even with both men getting dinked up before the huge overhand right to the forehead

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