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01-14-2008, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Damone
I take it you missed the second round of the Faber vs Curran fight.
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The one where Faber messed up his judo throw and landed on bottom, got his back taken again, but then finally kicked in gear and dominated the latter half?
No, I saw that too. The first two minutes of Round 2 were even.
Kid showed more dominance vs. Yahya than Faber did vs. Curran, personally.
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01-14-2008, 12:45 AM
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Did Curran ever come close to choking him out though? It's pretty difficult to choke someone out at the very start of a fight, especially with both guys not sweating, not gassed, and wearing MMA gloves.
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01-14-2008, 12:58 AM
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Rani hit some nice leg-kicks, a nice body kick, a nice head-kick (Which was followed up with a nice flurry), a nice counter, some wild strikes that connect, a nice uppercut, nice shot by Yahya after that wild flurry in the first, Superman punch connects, too bad that Rani is a dumbshit, Another wild flurry (Shots do connect, and yes, Kid's in there throwing wild, too), holy shit, someone pinch me, Rani is actually utilizing dirty boxing. Round over. Oooh, that dude in the middle of those 2 chicks is, like, so the pimp daddy. Wild flurry connects, Rani, do not match power. whoa, wild flurry and Rani unleashes 2 nice uppercuts, nice shot after eating a ton of shots, nice highkick, nice legkick, nice highkick, nice legkick.
Either Kid Yamamoto looked pretty meh, or Rani Yahya is making a Frank Shamrock-like improvement.
Also, kid was sloppy as shit here, willing to throw wildly with Yahya. If Yahya had Kid's power, then Kid would've been rocked, as well. Kid got his shots in, of course, but I don't know, something was off. I felt the same way in his last fight. He needs to fight guys like Pato, Takaya, Tamura, & Lion. Guys that would actually test him. K-1 Hero's wants to please him, and that's fine, but people need to realize that Faber would actually stand a good chance against him.
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Kid showed more dominance vs. Yahya than Faber did vs. Curran, personally.
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Kid was taking shots from a grappler. Faber got his back taken by a great jitz player. Kid stopped a grappler. Faber choked out a great jitz player, who happens to be damn near impossible to finish.
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01-14-2008, 01:08 AM
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Rani hit some nice leg-kicks, a nice body kick, a nice head-kick (Which was followed up with a nice flurry), a nice counter, some wild strikes that connect, a nice uppercut, nice shot by Yahya after that wild flurry in the first, Superman punch connects, too bad that Rani is a dumbshit, Another wild flurry (Shots do connect, and yes, Kid's in there throwing wild, too), holy shit, someone pinch me, Rani is actually utilizing dirty boxing. Round over. Oooh, that dude in the middle of those 2 chicks is, like, so the pimp daddy. Wild flurry connects, Rani, do not match power. whoa, wild flurry and Rani unleashes 2 nice uppercuts, nice shot after eating a ton of shots, nice highkick, nice legkick, nice highkick, nice legkick.
Either Kid Yamamoto looked pretty meh, or Rani Yahya is making a Frank Shamrock-like improvement.
Also, kid was sloppy as shit here, willing to throw wildly with Yahya. If Yahya had Kid's power, then Kid would've been rocked, as well. Kid got his shots in, of course, but I don't know, something was off. I felt the same way in his last fight. He needs to fight guys like Pato, Takaya, Tamura, & Lion. Guys that would actually test him. K-1 Hero's wants to please him, and that's fine, but people need to realize that Faber would actually stand a good chance against him.
Kid was taking shots from a grappler. Faber got his back taken by a great jitz player. Kid stopped a grappler. Faber choked out a great jitz player, who happens to be damn near impossible to finish.
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Thats all Yahya did, was throw power shots and they had a ton of steam on them. Kid took them as if they were nothing. I also notice the lack of account for how many times Rani was rocked. He even turned his back on Yamamoto once, and I thought it should have been stopped then.
As far as Faber getting his back taken by a jitz dude, yes thats true. But how'd he get outwrestled too??? Curran leg sweeped him at the outset of the fight and took his back. Round two, Curran stuffed Faber's throw...not very impressive from someone who is considered an explosive wrestler.
I'll admit, that was not Kid's best performance, but it wasn't horrid. Just the same as Urijah's wasn't "really, really good" against Curran.
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01-14-2008, 01:10 AM
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See, I thought Faber looked really good vs Curran. Getting put into a terrible position, defending it perfectly, then going back and doing the same thing to that person is, in my opinion, doing a really good job. It's more impressive for me to see someone handle adversity and difficult positions and still pull off the victory rather than just winning a one-sided fight.
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01-14-2008, 01:12 AM
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See, I thought Faber looked really good vs Curran. Getting put into a terrible position, defending it perfectly, then going back and doing the same thing to that person is, in my opinion, doing a really good job. It's more impressive for me to see someone handle adversity and difficult positions and still pull off the victory rather than just winning a one-sided fight.
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Coming back from a bad spot is impressive, but how is it more dominant than winning a one-sided fight? 
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01-14-2008, 01:25 AM
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Coming back from a bad spot is impressive, but how is it more dominant than winning a one-sided fight? 
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Well I actually said impressive, not dominant. You can look good offensively and defensively in a fight
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01-14-2008, 01:27 AM
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It was impressive because Faber came back after being in trouble, and completely smoked Jeff Curran, who has been in there with guys like Kid, Serra, Pato, Fabiano, and others. Get this, Faber choked out a great jitz fighter. That is impressive, and that's way more impressive than stopping a guy you should've been able to stop in the first place.
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01-14-2008, 11:05 AM
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Kid showed more dominance vs. Yahya than Faber did vs. Curran, personally.
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Well I actually said impressive, not dominant. You can look good offensively and defensively in a fight
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Thats the argument I'm making. Kid was more dominant vs. Yahya than Faber was vs. Curran...yet Kid looked bad for some reason...
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Originally Posted by Damone
It was impressive because Faber came back after being in trouble, and completely smoked Jeff Curran, who has been in there with guys like Kid, Serra, Pato, Fabiano, and others. Get this, Faber choked out a great jitz fighter. That is impressive, and that's way more impressive than stopping a guy you should've been able to stop in the first place.
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Its impressive in the finish, not how the whole fight went. He lost Round 1 pretty decisively. I wasn't arguing that Faber wasn't impressive, because he was. But Kid was much more dominant in his fight than Faber was.
Curran is a better opponent, but you're really knocking on Yahya here. He is one fight removed from fighting for a WEC title.
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01-14-2008, 01:44 PM
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kds, Curran is a way better fighter than Yahya. That pretty much ends the argument your trying to make. Yahya is a HORRIBLE striker and has crappy TD's. With Kid's godlike wrestling and K-1 level striking, shouldnt he have been able to finish a fighter like Yahya quicker than he did.
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