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General MMA Discussion Discuss King Of The Cage, Ultimate Challenge UK, and HDNet Fights as well as general mixed martial arts discussion.
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01-02-2008, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendo
Any decent striker could out strike Floyd any time. boxing glove are way bigger then a mma regular glove set. U cant block like boxing u cant dodge like boxing cuz u can eat a knee or a kick in the face real quick. Just decent leg kick could own floyd striking
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Exactly.
Even "boxing" in an MMA fight is completely different than boxing. It isn't even the same ballpark.
Worrying about leg kicks, takedowns, knees, elbows, the clinch, sweeps, etc...
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01-02-2008, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Z-man-mma-fan
Did anyone watch the Klitchko Interview on Jim Rome is Burning? Good to see a big name in boxing respecting MMA and aknowledging that Mayweather, a great boxer, may be exciting and a big PPV draw but may not be a great mixed martial artist.
IMO Floyd realizes that he basically has all the money he could possibly need and wants to spend the last 2-3 years of his fighting career trying something new. He has gone down as one of the greatest boxers of recent years and probably wants to take his chance at being known as the greatest fighter of all time, which, if he wins and keeps a UFC title, he has a good chance of doing. Thats one huge IF though, and personally i dont think he will be a title contender. Who knows though 
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He would need to train a ton of groundgame and forget half of what he has learnt from professional boxing. IMO it's actually easier to be an MMA fighter being an amateur boxer that concentrates less on defense and just likes to bang, rather than a pro boxer that nowadays relies 95% on good defense using those giant gloves and 5% on actual punching. That's why boxing is losing popularity too.. it used to be about just fighting back in the bare knuckle days, but it's evolved into a strategy sport exploiting it's own rule restrictions with less and less relation to fighting.
Last edited by Liddellianenko : 01-02-2008 at 05:45 PM.
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01-02-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by traf_quake
hey i love floyd as well guys but imo he'd get straight up mudered in mma
sure his hands are probly better than almost any mixed martial artist but look at guys like sherk, bj, huerta, ken-flo...these guys have spent as much time on the ground as well as stand up where as floyd has only worked on his hands
even if floyd made the transition i'm sure even with about 6 months of hard ground training won't even be close to enough to defend against the top guys.
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Totally agree... Mayweather KNOWS the ins and outs of boxing... and exploits the no-hit areas and stop-and-go action of boxing to the point of making a boxing match BORING.
His reflexes and habits will get him destroyed in mma... by any decent mma fighter, not just the top tier guys either.
Floyd has a big mouth and should either put up or shut up.
I would pay good money to watch him getting his ass handed to him in mma.
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01-02-2008, 06:48 PM
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Floyd is what, 30?? If he trains MMA solid for 2 years before he gets into a pro fight I think he will do just fine. The guy is an incredidible athlete!! If there is one thing we know its that great athletes flourish in MMA. Granted Floyd will need to train long and hard to be good but with talent like that he cant fail. He just needs to get in a solid camp and start from the bottom like everyone else.
But if your saying, send him to some MMA gym for a few months and throw him in there with likes of Urijah Faber or Jeff Curran than the guy would obviously get killed.
I mean 5 years ago Marcus Davis was just a boxer and now he is a skilled and dangerous fighter. Floyd is on a totally different level athletically than Marcus Davis. Send Floyd down to Greg Jackson or Pat Militich for 2 years and he will be a tough fight for anyone.
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01-02-2008, 06:50 PM
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I was watching this interview and as a boxing fan he really is a class act. He knows why boxing is down with the lack of exciting fighters and he's very intelligent. He's right though Floyd would get hurt in mma.
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01-02-2008, 06:52 PM
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i dunno guys
to say that floyd wouldnt stand a chance is silly
the guy will go down as one of greatest in boxing.....at least give him a chance if he were to take the time and make a transition to mma....by that i mean......learning wrestling, bjj, takedown defence, wrestling, leg kicks and all the other things needed to be a great mma fighter
other than that feel free to pick on his shitty attitude
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01-02-2008, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jdun11
Floyd is what, 30?? If he trains MMA solid for 2 years before he gets into a pro fight I think he will do just fine. The guy is an incredidible athlete!! If there is one thing we know its that great athletes flourish in MMA. Granted Flolyd will need to train long and hard to be good but with talent like that he cant fail. He just needs to get in a solid camp and start from the bottom like everyone else.
But if your saying, send him to some MMA gym for a few months and throw him in there with likes of Urijah Faber or Jeff Curran than the guy would obviously get killed.
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i dont usually agree with alot you spill out jdun
but hell man i agree with you on this
if were willing to give brock freaking lesnar a chance
we can sure as hell give this guy a chance.....but like i said im gonna tear this guy apart on his attitude
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The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
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01-02-2008, 06:54 PM
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He has a puncher's chance that's about it, he would have to revamp everything he knows about fighting and style. He would need alot of training quickly.
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01-02-2008, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by streetpunk08
He has a puncher's chance that's about it, he would have to revamp everything he knows about fighting and style. He would need alot of training quickly.
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well yah hed have a punchers chance....he is a boxer....but to he sure as hell has some potential
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The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
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01-02-2008, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jdun11
Floyd is what, 30?? If he trains MMA solid for 2 years before he gets into a pro fight I think he will do just fine. The guy is an incredidible athlete!! If there is one thing we know its that great athletes flourish in MMA. Granted Floyd will need to train long and hard to be good but with talent like that he cant fail. He just needs to get in a solid camp and start from the bottom like everyone else.
But if your saying, send him to some MMA gym for a few months and throw him in there with likes of Urijah Faber or Jeff Curran than the guy would obviously get killed.
I mean 5 years ago Marcus Davis was just a boxer and now he is a skilled and dangerous fighter. Floyd is on a totally different level athletically than Marcus Davis. Send Floyd down to Greg Jackson or Pat Militich for 2 years and he will be a tough fight for anyone.
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agreed. He is an athlete not just a boxer. I think if developed a good sprawl he could be a force. Dealing with the leg kicks shouldnt be that hard for him because he is fighter who fights off instinct. So leg kicks would be like punches once he trained for them.
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