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post #21 of 48 (permalink) Old 01-02-2008, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
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He would need to train a ton of groundgame and forget half of what he has learnt from professional boxing. IMO it's actually easier to be an MMA fighter being an amateur boxer that concentrates less on defense and just likes to bang, rather than a pro boxer that nowadays relies 95% on good defense using those giant gloves and 5% on actual punching. That's why boxing is losing popularity too.. it used to be about just fighting back in the bare knuckle days, but it's evolved into a strategy sport exploiting it's own rule restrictions with less and less relation to fighting.
what the hell are you talking about? bare knuckle days? what kind of ******* boxing do you watch exactly?

really though, if a boxer was 95% defence he'd get out decisioned in EVERY SINGLE FIGHT. Id say its closer to a balance of 50/50, thats what good boxers are anyway. Trust me, guys spend alot more time punching. Take a match like Liddell/Silva or even Forrest/Bonnar I, the punch count in an average boxing match is MUCH HIGHER than those 2 slugfests, with forrest/bonnar being one of the top 3 all-standup fights in UFC history, if not the best. Knockdown count in an average boxing match would probably be higher too. These guys' hands are very active compared to an MMA fighter, which is why Floyd could really be something if he was serious with this.

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He would need to train a ton of groundgame and forget half of what he has learnt from professional boxing. IMO it's actually easier to be an MMA fighter being an amateur boxer that concentrates less on defense and just likes to bang, rather than a pro boxer that nowadays relies 95% on good defense using those giant gloves and 5% on actual punching. That's why boxing is losing popularity too.. it used to be about just fighting back in the bare knuckle days, but it's evolved into a strategy sport exploiting it's own rule restrictions with less and less relation to fighting.
yeah i definatly agree, thats the whole reason im not a mayweather fan hes boring to watch. All he ever does is run from people and hide behind his gloves. I miss people like Tyson who would just go out their and brawl. Mayweather wins fights but hes definatly not the type to go out their and bang.
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yeah i definatly agree, thats the whole reason im not a mayweather fan hes boring to watch. All he ever does is run from people and hide behind his gloves. I miss people like Tyson who would just go out their and brawl. Mayweather wins fights but hes definatly not the type to go out their and bang.
you miss people that beat there wives and ripp off fighters ears with there teeth

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anybody know what weightclass he would have fought in in mma ? he seems to have been all over the scale in boxing ( lighter classes ) ?


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He has the athletic ability to be a threat in the division but he would definitely need to train at least a year in MMA

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anybody know what weightclass he would have fought in in mma ? he seems to have been all over the scale in boxing ( lighter classes ) ?
my money is on the 155 weightclass

The most solid advice I can give to anyone who fights BJ Penn is...do not motivate the guy. Lets face it, BJ although talented, is naturally lazy. Your job is to NOT convince him to step on that treadmill.
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I have a different take.

Is Floyd really that far head and shoulders above everyone else, or do most boxers just suck these days?

It's all relative.

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I have a different take.

Is Floyd really that far head and shoulders above everyone else, or do most boxers just suck these days?

It's all relative.
It WAS all relative, before his fight with De La Hoya, who was a tested and true former champ. Beating him solidified Floyd in many people's minds.

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floyd pros - Hard to hit, quick, good striking skills

cons - people will know that and take him down, clinch, kicks, being anything but one dimensional etc... even if he does learn another aspect of the sport it will be like a vet tooling a noob in those aspects. He`d have to keep everything standing, and some of the guys arent slouches standing as well, plus the fact that he doesnt train with small gloves, nor does he train in a cage.
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Floyds hands are extremely fast and his puches have pin point accuracy. He's also a very elusive fighter and he doesn't just block punches, he slips most of them. Floyds beaten some very good fighters in his career, convincingly too. If he dedicated himself to MMA and trained for a year or two at a good camp there is no reason to believe he couldn't excel in MMA. I hate his atitude as much as anyone, but you can't deny his talent.
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