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Old 01-07-2008, 02:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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boxers are not better athletes. They are really well suited for the sport of boxing but they are awkward at other things. They are usually squares and couldnt do MMA. You have to be a COMPLETE athlete to be good at mma and you have to be dominant at one or two things to be good at boxing. Like Randy Moss to me is very fast, jumps very high. He is great at a few things but he is not a complete athlete IMO.I do not think he could ever excel in mma.
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Old 01-07-2008, 04:26 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I basically agree with the op. Everyone gets a hard on for a young fighter with a good college wrestling background. Mayweather has an amazing background, and is at least as good an athelete as the top guys in mma at the moment. Yes he has some stuff to learn. But atheleticism and competitiveness are more important than knowledge, he can learn the technique in a year or so.

If he's willing to climb up for a year or two he could be a force. Hes got a better background than Lesner anyway.
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I basically agree with the op. Everyone gets a hard on for a young fighter with a good college wrestling background. Mayweather has an amazing background, and is at least as good an athelete as the top guys in mma at the moment. Yes he has some stuff to learn. But atheleticism and competitiveness are more important than knowledge, he can learn the technique in a year or so.

If he's willing to climb up for a year or two he could be a force. Hes got a better background than Lesner anyway.
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But atheleticism and competitiveness are more important than knowledge, he can learn the technique in a year or so.
If only that were true!
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Especially against all the solid wrestlers who have trained wrestling their whole lives at 155. Mayweather needs more like 2-3 years to be able to compete. As far as contending, I don't see that ever happening.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:31 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Simply put, boxers are better athlete
Well, you had me sort of intersted for a little while. Until this.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:38 PM   #27 (permalink)
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2 years would be enough for defense, his striking would still be his main weapon. 2 years would be too short for a normal athlete, but GSP has shown how a good athlete can pick up a lot quickly. Its not like all the good mma stars have amazing training backgrounds - many do but not all.
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2 years would be enough for defense, his striking would still be his main weapon. 2 years would be too short for a normal athlete, but GSP has shown how a good athlete can pick up a lot quickly. Its not like all the good mma stars have amazing training backgrounds - many do but not all.
You can't make a generalization about the sheer amount of time it would take Floyd to make the transition. He's a good athlete at boxing, but boxing is merely a single aspect of mixed martial arts. It takes more than 2 years of training to be good at BJJ, it takes more than 2 years to become a good wrestler.

Even if he trained 2 years to learn the basics, he'd still get his ass handed to him on the ground and even standing by fighters whom have simply been training MMA longer.

Your statement about "good mma stars" not all having amazing training backgrounds is far too vague. What constitutes a good mma star? I think in order to make it into the larger/more popular organizations such as UFC, Strikeforce, EliteXC, etc, you need to have an impeccable training regimend.

You don't see too many fighters in the UFC that have 0 MMA bouts under their belts. They're tested fighters. I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy here, but Floyd Mayweather would have to earn his way into organizations such as EliteXC/UFC by getting experience in the smaller ones, such as King of the Cage, where I think he'd still be getting tooled by much more experienced fighters.
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This is the biggest JOKE of a thread I have ever seen.

Here are some facts for you.
Boxing ONLY attracts people because they still make money.
Period, not for purity of sport or talent or any other reason a boxer or a boxing fan might make up.
Boxing is a corrupt confusing mess of a sport.
They make money, so people still want to box, period.

As far as boxers in mma go. It would take YEARS to change for mma. NObody is saying its impossible, it would just take YEARS. It is an entirely different sport.

As far as Kenny Florian Goes, he has been doing Martial Arts since he was a child, yes he played soccer but he was also busying earning a BJJ Black Belt.

So he didn't just come from soccer to mma, bad example on your part.
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2 years would be enough for defense, his striking would still be his main weapon. 2 years would be too short for a normal athlete, but GSP has shown how a good athlete can pick up a lot quickly. Its not like all the good mma stars have amazing training backgrounds - many do but not all.
lol GSP had his first fight when he was 16.

He is now 26. He has been fighting for 10 YEARS.
you guys should look into who you use for examples before you post. Yeah, he picks things up fast, but he also has TEN YEARS of mma experience.
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