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post #11 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-09-2008, 07:55 PM
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I'll have to go with Frank due to I think that he has better stand up and ground game, but then again Ken I believe has the better subs. Yeah I still go with Frank by split dec.

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post #12 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-09-2008, 08:09 PM
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I dont know about this fight. At first I thought Frank was too skilled. But recently I read something that Ken used to dominate Frank on a daily basis during their Lion's Den days. Maybe Damone could shed some light on this considering is the Forum's Lion's Den Expert.

Either way, Im taking Ken by heelhook 2 mins into the fight. Im serious BTW.
Frank's said that Ken used to muscle him around a lot, and that he was the strongest guy he has rolled with, but I think that Ken's shot, and his strength has dwindled down big time. Frank is just a better MMA fighter. He always was, he always will be. Frank will take this easily. First round TKO.

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I'll go with Ken on this one. March 31st aint too far away this is good news!!
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post #14 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-09-2008, 09:07 PM
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Its good to see Frank still wants to fight the best! Does this mean his fight with Cung Le is off?

Anyways, I have to agree Frank takes this one! Ever since Ken came back to the UFC he has not shown improvement in his game at all! After he fought Tito for the third time, he admitted he could bang with the fighters of today! Frank shown he can by dismantling Phil Baroni!

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I thought these two hated eachother.
Ken said in a video interview that they had no animosity towards each other.
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I dont know about this fight. At first I thought Frank was too skilled. But recently I read something that Ken used to dominate Frank on a daily basis during their Lion's Den days. Maybe Damone could shed some light on this considering is the Forum's Lion's Den Expert.

Either way, Im taking Ken by heelhook 2 mins into the fight. Im serious BTW.
I couldn't see it being by heel hook. Frank knows just as well as we do that the basis of Ken's ground game is his ability to sweep into leg locks, so I think Frank would be ready for that. I also use the term "ability" loosely because he hasn't done it in a looog time. So, Ken might go for the heel hook, but he's not getting anywhere with it. If Ken has any chance of winning, it's by some crazy surprise knockout.
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they will both lose via ear infections from all the shit talking they do prior to the event
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post #18 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-10-2008, 11:11 AM
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I believe the odds are on Frank's side. He is younger and he has better stand-up. But I really want Ken to win. He is one of my favorite fighters and he is the man that intorduced "well rounded fighter" term to me. When I saw him first time I thought he was just a bully like Tank Abbott. And then I saw his fight against Pat Smith and this muscular guy suddenly shoots in, takes Pat down and breaks his leg with leglock. Then I realized if you are strong you can use your strength even better if you know submissions. So I became a fan of ground fighting. I heard Ken's old injuries have completely healed and that he feels better than ever. Hopefully that's true.
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post #19 of 27 (permalink) Old 01-10-2008, 12:34 PM
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Ken needs to grow back some hardcore sideburns before this fight. He will need all the power he can get from them to beat Frank. They could bill it as a 'Burns vs. Hair match!


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I gotta go with Frank for reason's Damone mentioned. Even when he was getting outmuscled by Ken in the Lion's Den days, he was still the more well-rounded MMA fighter. Now that Ken's strength and speed have tapered off, I think Frank will out work him standing and submit him on the ground.

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