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Bas Rutten 12 75.00%
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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old 06-07-2006, 07:58 PM
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Actually, Bas has lost to Ken Shamrock twice. Granted it was early in his Pancrase career when he didn't develope his ground game. Once he got fully into it, he was tapping people as much as he was knocking them out.
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Actually, Bas has lost to Ken Shamrock twice. Granted it was early in his Pancrase career when he didn't develope his ground game. Once he got fully into it, he was tapping people as much as he was knocking them out.
And this is what I love about Bas, he's adapted and shown great submissions as well as the great strikes that made him famous in the first place. He understands that MMA is about Mixing martial arts and he realized that if he was going to stay in the game he was going to have to that.

Bas could probably beat alot of the heavyweights in UFC today. I think he probably hits harder than Sylvia or Arlovski, or at least he did in his prime. I can't wait for him to jump back in and see who he starts slugging.



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if anyone knows who Im referring to in my question above please let me know any info you know about it. seeing irons mention of the kimo/gracie fight reminded me of the kempo fighter who also did well against gracie.
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The only person that comes to mind is Keith Hackney. He was the Kempo expert that fought Emmanuel Yarborough (the 400lb sumo wrestler) back in UFC 3. He ended up losing to Royce in UFC 4 by armlock. He was able to keep the fight standing for about 6 minutes before getting taken down and tapped.
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thats him thanks ong. 2-2 is not an impressive record but I enjoyed watching him fight.
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Bas rutten is a monster.... i love his opened handed strikes... i think he will destroy kimo in the first round Kimo better pray that God is in his corner that night
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thats him thanks ong. 2-2 is not an impressive record but I enjoyed watching him fight.
You're right that 2-2 isn't a great record, but if you look at his opponents it's understandable. Props to Keith Hackney, but I think that Kimo is still the better fighter of the 2 of them.

I was watching the Gracie/Kimo fight again and I realized that Kimo actually injured Royce during the fight (about 40 seconds in he kicks Royce hard in the leg) and he is limping a little bit afterwards. It didn't keep Royce from dominating the fight, but it shows that his strength and balance (due partially to a low center of gravity from his stance) make him a hard guy to grapple with.

Grappling doesn't matter in a fight with Bas, for the most part. So I would have to go with Bas by KO, round 1 or 2 (early).



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