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I agree with the point that fighters MAY be able to.

I agree about Lidell, and Evans.

Sylvia? Dead.

Ortiz? Dead before the fight starts.

Sobral wouldnt be able to get the takedown.

Evans and Lidell have the best shot. But I still doubt it. Mirko by KO.
Also you would have to look at the rules....If they fight in the UFC...these fighters would have the advantage....Now in PRIDE...it might be different...It just seems to me PRIDE makes there fighters more ruthless by promoting them that way....Like i said...It's about the fighters over there...UFC totally different..Look at WANDERLEI Silva....He talks alot of shit...but all those fighters i mentioned above would totally dominate his ass if he fought them in the UFC under there rules....

This guy came to the UFC to challenge Chuck and got his ass kicked recently by someone else at PRIDE....Hell i thought he was the man over there...LOL...I remember what Belfort and Ortiz did to him...
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Cro Cop aint nuthing special....I can name several fighters that would whip his ass in the UFC..CroCop is a HWY not a LT HWY...but if these fighters would move up they would take his ass..

1. Chuck Liddell....Why...No one can take a flush shot from Liddell...and i mean nobody.
2. Tito Ortiz....I don't like this fella....but the man has some of the best elbows in the business once he has you on your back, your in alot of trouble....He's a Good wrestler..
3. Renato Sobral... The best submissions in the game today...need i say more....
4. Rashad Evan....I'm sure some of you are gonna blast me for saying this...But who has beaten him...This guy is the bigger, stronger and faster version of Matt Hughes....Hughes himself was quoted as saying Rashad is the "most explosive athlete in the world today". With his much improved Ground and Pound watch out. Bout time someone takes notice
5. Tim Silvia.....Doesn't matter if he looks clumsy in the ring....He's the champ for a reason....He beat the man Arlovski......


So say what you want about my top 5....It want hurt me...The only thing PRIDE has over the UFC is better marketing...PRIDE makes there fighters look like Warriors...at PRIDE it's all about the fighters and not so much about the company...In the UFC it's all about the company and they really screw there fighters and that's why there fighters look so much better.
you are out of your mind, you saw what rampage did to chuck and rampage isnt even that good of a striker, crocop is the best striker in the world..i twouldnt be a close fight..and for you to say Babalu, Rashad, and Tito would beat him makes you sound so stupid that its funny..that post makes you sound like the biggest UFC nuthugger, and i mindless one at that




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you are out of your mind, you saw what rampage did to chuck and rampage isnt even that good of a striker, crocop is the best striker in the world..i twouldnt be a close fight..and for you to say Babalu, Rashad, and Tito would beat him makes you sound so stupid that its funny..that post makes you sound like the biggest UFC nuthugger, and i mindless one at that
Dude you always have something low to say about UFC and it's fighters...Dude Chuck Liddell lost that fight years ago...Hell he also lost to Randy Couture as well...But we saw what happened in the rematch....

Now putting down the other UFC fighters, shows how much you know about MMA....On any given night anything can happen....

Like i said....to me the best fighter in the world are in the UFC....Why? Because they aren't made out to be these unbeatable warriors like PRIDE..

Look at what happened to your boy Silva when he came to the UFC...Got KNOCKED THE **** OUT WITHIN 16 seconds.....

So learn something about MMA before you start throwing that BS around. The fighters i named have a good if not excellent chance of winning under the UFC rules.
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you are out of your mind, you saw what rampage did to chuck and rampage isnt even that good of a striker, crocop is the best striker in the world..i twouldnt be a close fight..and for you to say Babalu, Rashad, and Tito would beat him makes you sound so stupid that its funny..that post makes you sound like the biggest UFC nuthugger, and i mindless one at that
You talk alot of shit on the net....I live in Lynwood washington....If you think your tough...We can test our skill.....Let me know.....what's up....I will be in Vancouver tonight at the King of the Cage fight...But Sunday I'm free....

I can teach you a thing of two about MMA. I've tested my skill against some of the best..
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first off I dont like wanderlei, and i think chuck and tito would beat him if they faught right now..second I only state the obvious facts, crocop has the best takedown defense in the world , therefore tito, babalu, and most of all rashad are out of the question cuz they couldnt take mirko down..second Crocop is a K-1 level striker the likes of which chuck and sylvia have never seen, Crocop is on another level than Chuck, Chuck look great striking when hes fighting grapplers, put him in there against sum-1 like Crocop, bed time for chuck..im saying this and tito and chuck are 2/3 of my fav fighters..im not biased at all




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You talk alot of shit on the net....I live in Lynwood washington....If you think your tough...We can test our skill.....Let me know.....what's up....I will be in Vancouver tonight at the King of the Cage fight...But Sunday I'm free....

I can teach you a thing of two about MMA. I've tested my skill against some of the best..
hahahah ur a clown dude..i talk trash over the net, i never said anything bout fighting you idiot..i just think ur an idiot when it comes to this topic of liddell vs crocop and i think ur a UFC nuthugger..wow real tough u told me where u live, it says where i live right under my name, so you knew i lived on the other side of the country...keyboard warrior, and i do train mma and i doubt you have been in there with the best ur probably 250 14 yrold kid with glasses that gets picked on in middeschool




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hahahah ur a clown dude..i talk trash over the net, i never said anything bout fighting you idiot..i just think ur an idiot when it comes to this topic of liddell vs crocop and i think ur a UFC nuthugger..wow real tough u told me where u live, it says where i live right under my name, so you knew i lived on the other side of the country...keyboard warrior, and i do train mma and i doubt you have been in there with the best ur probably 250 14 yrold kid with glasses that gets picked on in middeschool
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I do not watch Pride, but have seen a few of Cro Cop's highlights and the fight with Wanderlei. The man looks like a beast. Being a fan of the UFC and not liking the Japanese thing, I would say I would want Chuck to win, however, I think Cro Cop has the better chance and would most likely win.
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hahahah ur a clown dude..i talk trash over the net, i never said anything bout fighting you idiot..i just think ur an idiot when it comes to this topic of liddell vs crocop and i think ur a UFC nuthugger..wow real tough u told me where u live, it says where i live right under my name, so you knew i lived on the other side of the country...keyboard warrior, and i do train mma and i doubt you have been in there with the best ur probably 250 14 yrold kid with glasses that gets picked on in middeschool
Oh i thought you WERE IN EVERETT, WA...MY BAD...BUT like i said...Learn something before you talk shit...and a little about me...I'm 30 years old...I first trained in Wing Chun and Judo at the age of 8. I got my first Black Belt in Judo at 12 and Wingchun a year later....

I've also had 30 ameatur boxing matches...So i've been around the MMA world for guite some time...

Lastly...I don't wear glass and I was never picked on as a kid...So get your paper book physcology right..Like I've said once before....

I joined the US NAVY IN 1997 and i've had the chance living out here in western washington and traveling the world to train with some of the best fighters in the world..

I've trained on occassions with the likes of Randy Couture, I've wrested with Chuck Liddell while our ship was docked in Santa Barbara, I wrestled against Mario Sperry at one of his studio's out here in Everett and I've thrown hands for charity against Tito Ortiz while being docked in San Dog...(San Diego)

I've even did Chi Sao against the last Close Door student of the great Yip Man... Leung Ting, Bruce Lee's first and best student Jesse Glover....So i'm not braggin...I'm just telling you when i talk MMA...I speak from experience...EXPERIENCE from being in there with the best in the world...Not a couch talking fat bum or some dumb kid like yourself...
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Cro Cop aint nuthing special....I can name several fighters that would whip his ass in the UFC..CroCop is a HWY not a LT HWY...but if these fighters would move up they would take his ass..

1. Chuck Liddell....Why...No one can take a flush shot from Liddell...and i mean nobody.
2. Tito Ortiz....I don't like this fella....but the man has some of the best elbows in the business once he has you on your back, your in alot of trouble....He's a Good wrestler..
3. Renato Sobral... The best submissions in the game today...need i say more....
4. Rashad Evan....I'm sure some of you are gonna blast me for saying this...But who has beaten him...This guy is the bigger, stronger and faster version of Matt Hughes....Hughes himself was quoted as saying Rashad is the "most explosive athlete in the world today". With his much improved Ground and Pound watch out. Bout time someone takes notice
5. Tim Silvia.....Doesn't matter if he looks clumsy in the ring....He's the champ for a reason....He beat the man Arlovski......


So say what you want about my top 5....It want hurt me...The only thing PRIDE has over the UFC is better marketing...PRIDE makes there fighters look like Warriors...at PRIDE it's all about the fighters and not so much about the company...In the UFC it's all about the company and they really screw there fighters and that's why there fighters look so much better.
This just further proves my point that you are not the MMA expert you claim to be. This statement is just preposterous, I'm not even gonna say why. As far as Chuck and Cro Cop go I would bet alot of money on Cro Cop, but Chuck still stands a chance. He always does.

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And you may be a good fighter thats great. But it doesnt mean you know Pride and UFC. For example Silvas last fight in UFC was 6 years ago then he went to Pride and became the fighter he is today. If you dont give Wanderlei Silva or Mirko Cro Cop respect you simply dont know MMA. Now kindly leave this forum and go bother someone else.

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